Comparison Yanmar lawsuit.

   / Yanmar lawsuit. #231  
I cant think of any company that makes parts for its old models unless they happen to fit newer models still in production. It doesn't make any financial sense to do that especially in light of Yanmars strange market view.

So if parts just happen to overlap a decade or 3 that would be a pure coincidence and something that imho could not be cataloged with any accuracy at all to be perfectly logical about the OE parts question. That's not even considering parts numbers superseding etc . my .002
 
   / Yanmar lawsuit. #232  
I cant think of any company that makes parts for its old models unless they happen to fit newer models still in production. It doesn't make any financial sense to do that especially in light of Yanmars strange market view.
So if parts just happen to overlap a decade or 3 that would be a pure coincidence and something that imho could not be cataloged with any accuracy at all to be perfectly logical about the OE parts question. That's not even considering parts numbers superseding etc . my .002
Deere has quite the selection of parts for their old iron, but I dont know how much is NOS and how much is new production.
If there is enough demand for it, most any company will still make the parts, but I dont know that yanmar had enough sales over here to make it worth their while to provide parts for older machines.

Aaron Z
 
   / Yanmar lawsuit. #233  
I cant think of any company that makes parts for its old models unless they happen to fit newer models still in production. It doesn't make any financial sense to do that especially in light of Yanmars strange market view.

So if parts just happen to overlap a decade or 3 that would be a pure coincidence and something that imho could not be cataloged with any accuracy at all to be perfectly logical about the OE parts question. That's not even considering parts numbers superseding etc . my .002

It's a disappointment that John Deere doesn't immediately get mentioned as the exception. I've ordered parts from them for lots of their tractors and implements....including old horse-drawn plow parts. Our JD530 tractor is admittedly one of their later models.....it's a worker rather than a collector item....but I have had no trouble buying the few parts it has needed. Sometimes parts are in stock at the local dealer. If not there, the order goes to the factory warehouse or gets bounced to a dealer network.

JD deserves credit for making tractors that last a long time and then supporting them. And it's a philosophy that has made them very successful. I am kind hoping that Yanmar will do something similar. There's still time; they've already done the difficult part by making tractors that last a long time.
rScotty
 
   / Yanmar lawsuit. #234  
And you PAY for the JD parts. BUT at least you can still buy them!!! Its not worth anything to have a tractor that you cant get parts for.
 
   / Yanmar lawsuit. #235  
thru after market, mostly, CNh does a good job keeping the older ford tractors fed. can still walk in and buy lots of parts for fords made as far back as 39...
 
   / Yanmar lawsuit. #236  
True enough but at least the company is still around servicing new models. With Yanmar, it would appear that the few dealers who carried parts have disappeared. I hadn't really need anything for a couple years and didn't notice. I also realize that they won't have everypart necessary but there are enough common parts that probably carry over. I'm not a big fan of the casting quality of our indian and chinese counterparts.....I really don't think I would consider buying a yanmar in todays world.
 
   / Yanmar lawsuit. #237  
You have been running chineese and indian and tiwaneese parts on your vehicles for years. Many parts that i buy now a days are chineese.
 
   / Yanmar lawsuit. #238  
Hey guys dont get all cloudy over the fact JD and Ford didn't get mentioned true they support old machines that is not comparing apples to apples and you all know it! :laughing:

We were discussing OE parts availability (or lack of) of Yanmar's gray and US spec. Who we all know hasn't been in the tractor business forever like the rest and has been stumbling here lately in pretty spectacular ways.

That and only recently decided they need to or had to reinvent themselves in the US market. So at this point they are not even a dimple of the impact any one of the big 3 are or ever have been imho. :thumbsup: my .002
 
   / Yanmar lawsuit. #239  
Plus - Yanmar Japan is a private company owned by an individual. Whatever he wants is how it will be done, and he can ignore the Deere/Ford business model if he chooses to. He likes to build top quality, which works to our advantage. However Yanmar marketing is more in the Japanese style where Construction, Marine, Farm, and probably some other branches have geographic territories and can't sell across market segment or geographic region boundaries. Good luck trying to order injectors for example from a Yanmar Marine dealer over on the far side of the US. Even though it is the same identical part as a farm tractor injector.

This model is intended to keep the dealers strong because they don't have to compete with one another. It is apparently just how things are done in Japan. But its not what the American customer expects. I think Fredricks and Hoye are guaranteed a role in the Yanmar parts market forever so long as they can provide NAPA-quality replica parts.
 
   / Yanmar lawsuit. #240  
"This model is intended to keep the dealers strong because they don't have to compete with one another." Deere uses this model (as best as it can) here in the states as well.

I've found it frustrating at times, because the support side in parts gets short changed. But when you make it costly enough, solutions always present themselves.
 

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