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AndyM
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<font color="blue"> We've been using this Walmart cart (see attachment) since 1991. Best $88 I ever spent. </font>
In 1991, it was probably American made too...
I'm not trying to start a Walmart debate, but it was an interesting discussion that came up at lunch today--
The old man (Sam Walton) was all about creating jobs for Americans, and after he died, his heirs only cared about turning his tens of billions of dollars into hundreds of billions! At the time of his death, American made products accounted for 80 percent of their sales... now Chinese made products are 80 percent of their sales!
This is just an observation we made today.
It is not intended to spark a heated debate!
Anyhoo, I'm off to the Homier sale to check out the Chinese made dump wagon! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
<font color="blue"> We've been using this Walmart cart (see attachment) since 1991. Best $88 I ever spent. </font>
In 1991, it was probably American made too...
I'm not trying to start a Walmart debate, but it was an interesting discussion that came up at lunch today--
The old man (Sam Walton) was all about creating jobs for Americans, and after he died, his heirs only cared about turning his tens of billions of dollars into hundreds of billions! At the time of his death, American made products accounted for 80 percent of their sales... now Chinese made products are 80 percent of their sales!
This is just an observation we made today.
It is not intended to spark a heated debate!
Anyhoo, I'm off to the Homier sale to check out the Chinese made dump wagon! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I know what you mean. I was there last night looking for a cheap battery powered wall clock. All made in China. So looked at the more expensive ones. Still made in China. Oh wait there is a Timex - nope still made in china.
ALL of the wall clocks made in China. Depressing.
Phil
ALL of the wall clocks made in China. Depressing.
Phil
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AndyM . . . a couple corrections, Sam Walton didn't have tens of billions but the entire family was closing in on 10 billion. But that is just me being picky. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif On a serious note, I do think that Wal Mart has really gone down hill, and I also realize that while I say that their sales are up. Sam was a great American businessman, can't say that his legacy continues the tradition he started, of course that is just my opinion. Now as for the Chinese connection, Wal Mart currenty accounts for a full 1% of their entire economy, and that is a HUGE amount. Again, just me, but I do everything I can to avoid shopping there.
Now on to the Homier stuff. I wouldn't trust their wagon to hold the advertised weight and actually move that amount more than one time. Ditto several other brands. Kory wagons, on the other hand, impress the heck out of me with their quality, no question in my mind that the advertised capacity is actually underrated. Kory makes Quality. The country manufacturing looks good in the photos, I've still not seen one, but reports are good.
Now on to the Homier stuff. I wouldn't trust their wagon to hold the advertised weight and actually move that amount more than one time. Ditto several other brands. Kory wagons, on the other hand, impress the heck out of me with their quality, no question in my mind that the advertised capacity is actually underrated. Kory makes Quality. The country manufacturing looks good in the photos, I've still not seen one, but reports are good.
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Bob,
Here are a few comparisons between the Kory and Country Manufacturing units that I found while doing my pre-purchase due diligence.
I think for the money the CM units beat the Kory hands down both price wise and quality wise. With the half off sale going on right now, the CM unit is by far the best buy out there.
<ul type="square"> [*]For the running gear frame, the Kory uses an X-frame design while the Country Manufacturing unit uses an H-frame. [*]Kory uses 18.5" x 8.5-5 2-ply tires the CM unit uses 20" x 10-8 4-ply tires [*]The Kory rated capacity is 3000 lbs while the CM is 4000 lbs. [*]The CM unit comes with dump capabilities while the Kory does not. The bed frame for the Kory is an additional cost option and you must fabricate your own dump mechanism. [*]Assuming you get the Kory bed frame you have to fabricate your own ends and sides. These come standard with the CM. [*]Kory uses 1/2" tie rods while the CM uses 3/4". [*]Tread width (center to center) is the same 41" for both units. [*]The big difference is in the wheel hubs. The Kory uses a 5 bolt heavy duty trailer hub on 1.5" spindles. The CM uses a solid welded hub with a 1" axle. Both use standard roller bearings. [*]The Kory weighs in at about 320 lbs with a bed while the CM is 500 lbs with bed. [*]The CM uses 5.5" bar channel for the front and rear cross member while the Kory uses 5". [*]The best price I could find on the Kory with bed was $915 delivered. The CM MSRP is $1399 delivered and $749 + $178 shipping ($927 total) while on sale. [/list] There you have it. The specs speak for themselves. The CM is a much more robust unit and when normally priced, much more expensive. As you yourself once said, "You pay for quality". /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Here are a few comparisons between the Kory and Country Manufacturing units that I found while doing my pre-purchase due diligence.
I think for the money the CM units beat the Kory hands down both price wise and quality wise. With the half off sale going on right now, the CM unit is by far the best buy out there.
<ul type="square"> [*]For the running gear frame, the Kory uses an X-frame design while the Country Manufacturing unit uses an H-frame. [*]Kory uses 18.5" x 8.5-5 2-ply tires the CM unit uses 20" x 10-8 4-ply tires [*]The Kory rated capacity is 3000 lbs while the CM is 4000 lbs. [*]The CM unit comes with dump capabilities while the Kory does not. The bed frame for the Kory is an additional cost option and you must fabricate your own dump mechanism. [*]Assuming you get the Kory bed frame you have to fabricate your own ends and sides. These come standard with the CM. [*]Kory uses 1/2" tie rods while the CM uses 3/4". [*]Tread width (center to center) is the same 41" for both units. [*]The big difference is in the wheel hubs. The Kory uses a 5 bolt heavy duty trailer hub on 1.5" spindles. The CM uses a solid welded hub with a 1" axle. Both use standard roller bearings. [*]The Kory weighs in at about 320 lbs with a bed while the CM is 500 lbs with bed. [*]The CM uses 5.5" bar channel for the front and rear cross member while the Kory uses 5". [*]The best price I could find on the Kory with bed was $915 delivered. The CM MSRP is $1399 delivered and $749 + $178 shipping ($927 total) while on sale. [/list] There you have it. The specs speak for themselves. The CM is a much more robust unit and when normally priced, much more expensive. As you yourself once said, "You pay for quality". /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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<font color="blue"> Now on to the Homier stuff. I wouldn't trust their wagon to hold the advertised weight and actually move that amount more than one time. </font>
I agree, but it's cheap and readily available at the corner tent sale. I don't want to pay too much, but I don't want terrible quality either. I've learned to pick out Homier's junk from their better stuff... I did quite well with their $250 box blade (at least for my needs), but I decided their dump wagon wasn't wrth the price.
<font color="blue"> The country manufacturing looks good in the photos, I've still not seen one, but reports are good.
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There are still American made, quality items out there, but I don't know who they are or where to find them unless someone directs me to them!
Country Manufacturing
They have exactly what I'm looking for...
Once again, Bob Skurka comes through for everyone... Thanks Bob!
I'd go out and buy it right now, but I think I better talk to the CFO first. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
I agree, but it's cheap and readily available at the corner tent sale. I don't want to pay too much, but I don't want terrible quality either. I've learned to pick out Homier's junk from their better stuff... I did quite well with their $250 box blade (at least for my needs), but I decided their dump wagon wasn't wrth the price.
<font color="blue"> The country manufacturing looks good in the photos, I've still not seen one, but reports are good.
</font>
There are still American made, quality items out there, but I don't know who they are or where to find them unless someone directs me to them!
Country Manufacturing
They have exactly what I'm looking for...
Once again, Bob Skurka comes through for everyone... Thanks Bob!
I'd go out and buy it right now, but I think I better talk to the CFO first. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
