YM1500 Starter Issu

[NCDaveD]

Picked up a YM1500 yesterday after doing lots of research and trolling many, many threads on different forums. The fellow had the injectors rebuilt, put in new rings and honed the cylinders, and replaced several worn and broken bits a pieces. The only issue I saw (or heard) was the starter. He thought it was the solenoid, and was able to crank it several times in a row w/o a problem. I had more of an issue and figured it was one of those "got to get the hang of it" things.

Well, today I was able to start it several times, but each time, it sounded like the starter just wasn't engaging correctly. So I pulled the starter and found it to be a 9 tooth starter instead of the correct 11 tooth starter, and the main gear in the engine was chewed up a bit. Needless to say, I won't be starting it again until I get a new correct starter, but am concerned with the main gear in the engine. How much wear is too much wear? It appeared that about 1/16" inch was gone from the gear tooth thickness. Am I OK, or do I need to seriously consider replacing that main gear?

Thanks for any thoughts and observations you could send my way.
NCDaveD

 

[winston1]

1/16" is not much. Not looking at it but based on your description I believe I would give the new starter a try. If it doesn't seem to engage correctly, then take the next step. Just my opinion.

 

[clemsonfor]

Im with winston, i would get the correct starter and reassemble and just run it. May last forever maybe 5 yrs you never know, but sounds like it should be good. California posts on here that you can get a starter out of about a 73 or 78 datsun or something and its the same as the yanmar starter. These can be had at places like advance auto for under $50 i think. Otherwise its to Ebay ( or Hoye)to spend close to $100. or have the correct gear put on yours?

You can always sell yours as well, as its still good.

 

[NCDaveD]

Thanks guys! I ponied up the $ and placed an order with Hoye for the starter and a couple of extra things. Actually had to place another order a say later to get new oil and water sending units when the idiot lights wouldn't work. I checked the wiring, and when the circuit was grounded, the lights would work, just not with the ignition on and the wires installed to the senders. Fortunately, the fellow did replace the old fuse block with a newer version that uses the std. blade fuses.

I'll get this thing cleaned up a bit more and put it to work!

NCDaveD

 

[California]

California posts on here that you can get a starter out of about a 73 or 78 datsun or something....

Uh - its the alternator and regulator that are the same between YM2000 and 70~73 Datsun. I'm not familiar with what is on YM1500. Maybe both of those components will bolt right on and would be an inexpensive charging system repair for YM1500, but I just don't know.

It was YM2000 starter where I found a higher-amperage equivalent on Ebay, listed as a Deere part. I bought it and it works great! Again, I don't know if this is applicable to YM1500.

You did the right thing ordering the correct starter from Hoye. In many cases relying on a dealer who knows what he is doing is preferable to try-and-see on your own. It sounds like the prior owner already tried that!

 

[clemsonfor]

Uh - its the alternator and regulator that are the same between YM2000 and 70~73 Datsun. I'm not familiar with what is on YM1500. Maybe both of those components will bolt right on and would be an inexpensive charging system repair for YM1500, but I just don't know.

It was YM2000 starter where I found a higher-amperage equivalent on Ebay, listed as a Deere part. I bought it and it works great! Again, I don't know if this is applicable to YM1500.

You did the right thing ordering the correct starter from Hoye. In many cases relying on a dealer who knows what he is doing is preferable to try-and-see on your own. It sounds like the prior owner already tried that!

Thanks for correcting me. I read all your stuff but clearly have it all jumbled up in my head. Thanks for posting the correction. I know when i need something like these parts i will just ask you as you have traced these parts and the Datsun replacements pretty well. It will definitly shorten my legwork when the time comes (hopefully never)!

 

[California]

Hopefully never. My charging system worked fine until I cleaned the regulator with my pressure washer. I suggest don't do that.

 

[Car Doc]

I am just so impressed with the OP's ability to determine that the gear had the wrong amount of teeth and it fit the tractor that is amazing. I can honestly say I would have never thought of that beings as how it apparently fit ok well done sir!

 

[NCDaveD]

Thanks Car Doc, but the kudo's goes to Hoye Tractor for putting that information on their web site in the starter section. I would have never thought of it either, but I recalled them mentioning it when I was researching this particular YM1500 and the owner said that it "might" need a starter at some point in the future. When I had problems starting it, it just didn't "sound right" compared to the car's I've worked on in the past. Now I have the starter and just need the time to get it on before I use the tractor again.

California...thanks for the heads up on the voltage regulator

 

[NCDaveD]

Starter from Hoye was installed today w/new battery cables and recharged battery. Fired right up w/o weird noises or any hesitation. Checked output on the generator and that looks good, so now to get some front weights and get this thing working! Thanks for all the suggestions!