You guys are in the WRONG business!

   / You guys are in the WRONG business! #11  
Sully2 said:
I need to start at the beginning here.
I NEED a landscape rake.. Went to TSC and looked at King Kutter. Ive seen better..but they would do for what I need. Cost was $475. I asked about the gauge wheels for it. My mom has a better idea of whats what than they do..they didnt even know they existed...so I call King Kutter DIRECT. KK told me...$200 for a set of wheel..!!! ( Thats total BS! )

Then I went to a locally made rake. Girl priced me a 5 footer for $460 WITH the wheels! Im thinking ALLLL RIGHT!! I called them yesterday to get it in for me and they called me back today and said...WRONG PRICE??? The wheels are $220 MORE. I calmly told them to "Stick that right in your.."Well..anyway ..I declined.

Today I did some telephone shopping. Got a price on a WOODS that is built heavier and has more features...$475 I told the guy to get it in...and then I asked..BTW can I get wheels with it? He said SURE...a set of wheels for it from Woods is...get this now..$300!!!!

So I guess my bottom line question is..?? Where is it that these companys forge the GOLD into what looks like rake wheel hardware????

If you go to TSC and expect them to know all the engineered options of a commodity farm implement you are naive. If you want full service and at least the chance for sound advice go to a farm machinery dealer.
 
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CCI said:
If you go to TSC and expect them to know all the engineered options of a commodity farm implement you are naive. If you want full service and at least the chance for sound advice go to a farm machinery dealer.

"Everything"...surely not...but SOMETHING!!!! When they have a brochure right in their rack...that has a PICTURE of a KK rake WITH wheels ATTACHED..?...and then they say they know nothing abut them? C'mon now...lol

Id suggest you ALWAYS add in the word..."GOOD" to the "farm machinery dealer". Ive been in "some" that makes TSC look like brain surgeons...:eek:

A person has to be in "farm country" to get GOOD advice on "farm equipment". And near me ..well..its really not "farm country"
 
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CCI said:
If you go to TSC and expect them to know all the engineered options of a commodity farm implement you are naive. If you want full service and at least the chance for sound advice go to a farm machinery dealer.

That's like trying to get advice on how to hook up an electronic component at Radio shack. all they know about are cell phones now..

soundguy
 
   / You guys are in the WRONG business! #14  
If you have very flat terrain you can set the three point height to one level and forget it. If you have any change in elevation, the rigid 3PH geometry will either cause to dig in (when starting up a hill), or lift up (when starting down a hill.) With gauge wheels you let the 3PH float and the rake stays the same height in relation to the ground despite the tractor's orientation.
 
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Sully,
Do you have the Harbor Freight part number, or a link to the web page? I could not find them. I did find ones on the Agri-Supply web page, however I would rather save the $ and go to my local HF. Thanks.

Here is a picture of the Agri-Supply ones. They run about $26 a piece.
 

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DocHeb said:
If you have very flat terrain you can set the three point height to one level and forget it. If you have any change in elevation, the rigid 3PH geometry will either cause to dig in (when starting up a hill), or lift up (when starting down a hill.) With gauge wheels you let the 3PH float and the rake stays the same height in relation to the ground despite the tractor's orientation.
Thanks. I learned something new again. That is why I like this site so much. Now I guess I'll have to build a set for my rake.
 
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kwolfe said:
Sully,
Do you have the Harbor Freight part number, or a link to the web page? I could not find them. I did find ones on the Agri-Supply web page, however I would rather save the $ and go to my local HF. Thanks.

Here is a picture of the Agri-Supply ones. They run about $26 a piece.
Build you own. 2 pieces of 2" x 3/8 flat bar and a short section of 2" c-channel. For the spindle use a 1" hitch pin. That is what I did for a total cost of under $7. Just check out my build post. In fact, I have built several sets of these for other people here on TBN.
 
   / You guys are in the WRONG business! #18  
What kind of jobs do you use a landscape rake on? I've never seen the need for one.






Sully2 said:
I need to start at the beginning here.
I NEED a landscape rake.. Went to TSC and looked at King Kutter. Ive seen better..but they would do for what I need. Cost was $475. I asked about the gauge wheels for it. My mom has a better idea of whats what than they do..they didnt even know they existed...so I call King Kutter DIRECT. KK told me...$200 for a set of wheel..!!! ( Thats total BS! )

Then I went to a locally made rake. Girl priced me a 5 footer for $460 WITH the wheels! Im thinking ALLLL RIGHT!! I called them yesterday to get it in for me and they called me back today and said...WRONG PRICE??? The wheels are $220 MORE. I calmly told them to "Stick that right in your.."Well..anyway ..I declined.

Today I did some telephone shopping. Got a price on a WOODS that is built heavier and has more features...$475 I told the guy to get it in...and then I asked..BTW can I get wheels with it? He said SURE...a set of wheels for it from Woods is...get this now..$300!!!!

So I guess my bottom line question is..?? Where is it that these companys forge the GOLD into what looks like rake wheel hardware????
 
   / You guys are in the WRONG business! #19  
DocHeb said:
If you have very flat terrain you can set the three point height to one level and forget it. If you have any change in elevation, the rigid 3PH geometry will either cause to dig in (when starting up a hill), or lift up (when starting down a hill.) With gauge wheels you let the 3PH float and the rake stays the same height in relation to the ground despite the tractor's orientation.


I don't have "flat" land, and I don't have much trouble with my rake without wheels. I'm not saying that the wheels don't have a use, but a better investment might be in developing the skills needed to get the most out of one's machine. This is a common problem in construction... There are backhoe/loader/trackhoe/dozer/etc, etc drivers, and then there are operators.
 
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kwolfe said:
Sully,
Do you have the Harbor Freight part number, or a link to the web page? I could not find them. I did find ones on the Agri-Supply web page, however I would rather save the $ and go to my local HF. Thanks.

Here is a picture of the Agri-Supply ones. They run about $26 a piece.
Here are the casters themselves.."#38943-8VGA..OR...#38944-7VGA" and you need to weld on a spindle shaft the length and diameter to fit your equipment.
 
 

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