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I think that the most conservative man to set foot on the earth went by the name of Jesus. And while it may be physically impossible for me to follow His every example, I'll certainly give it my best effort, even if I do get the "extremist right wing" label. The long term benefits are well worth it.

Kelvin
 
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20 years ago dad said:
1) Liberals will steal your hard earned money and give it to the poor or waste it on dubious social programs
2) Conservatives will steal your hard earned money and give it away to their rich corporate sponsors or waste it on dubious military programs
3) The net difference between 1 and 2 on your income is zero...

They all may talk a different talk, but the result is the same, we all work many extra hours and don't see the fruits of our labors...

- Patrick W.
 
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<font color=blue>I think that the most conservative man to set foot on the earth went by the name of Jesus. And while it may be physically impossible for me to follow His every example, I'll certainly give it my best effort, even if I do get the "extremist right wing" label. The long term benefits are well worth it.</font color=blue>

Morning Kelvin, I've been out of town working or visiting with only a couple of moments lately for interneting or I'd have replied to your post earlier.

I find your position quite interesting. Conservatism is a strange bed indeed if Jesus is the model for the blanket.

He allegedly fed the multitudes without demanding workfare or allegieance. That concept is not part and parcel of our government and definately at odds with this administration. We could even say that attitude is the most unAmerican thought imaginable. I mean is welfare for those who ask for it part of the conservative agenda?

His attitude towards other's morality or the lack thereof would be considered as far to the left as one can get and still have an ACLU card. The idea of forgiveness and understanding for moral trespass is not part of the conservative agenda.

I'm not sure what he'd say about corporate philosophy but it is documented what he thought of a rich man's chances of getting to heaven. His disdain for worldy possessions and acclaim is completely contrary to popular American culture and actually a lot closer to the current attitudes in the third world Islam.

And if he was alive today it would be interesting to see his perspective on the government--church controversy. We do know he had a snot slinging fit about them mixing in the temple and one has to assume he'd feel the same about them mixing in the court house. Especially after his discussions with Pilate about just who was in charge of what.

In fact if you read his discussion with Pilate carefully you could almost see a Greenpeace protestor standing in front of a Justice of the Peace claiming higher authority for their actions.

I have found it interesting how some have decided that Jesus is the example to use to proclaim personal responsibilty while his alleged life is the perfect example of societal responsiblity for the individual.

If you consider his alleged life was all about forgiveness and self sacrifice for the good of mankind and there is his command for his followers to do the same.

Then as now that message sounds a lot more liberal than conservative don't you agree?

We could look at his parable about the prodical son and consider a what if with Bill Clinton's repentance and salvation. Do you think for a minute a saved and repentant Bill would be treated by this administration as Christ would treat him?
 
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Kelvin--

I'm curious re. what aspect of the life of Christ you find to be in parallel with current "extremist right wing" thinking?
 
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<font color=blue>Morning Kelvin, I've been out of town working or visiting with only a couple of moments lately for interneting or I'd have replied to your post earlier.</font color=blue>

I wondered why you were mysteriously absent from the "How far off topic to go?" thread. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
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Hi, Kent. I have no idea; the terminology was Kelvin's (well, the "extremist right wing" part; I added the "thinking" part; possibly my bad), so I'm trusting that Kelvin'll define the terms for me so I understand what he means.
 
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A better question would be what does Jesus feeding the multitudes have to do with government welfare programs? He admonished his followers to do good works. He didn't work with local government to raise taxes so government could hire people to skim money off the top and spread a little of it to the poor.

The left is a strange group indeed. They fight tooth and nail to get religion out of government. Then they cite religion as justification for government welfare programs and accuse those opposed to then of being "godless".
 
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