Your Opinion Please.

   / Your Opinion Please. #31  
In the past I have had arguments with recruiters who wanted me to shorten my resume because it was too long and managers would not read it. Which I told them was perfectly ok by me. :eek: Why do I want to be hired by a mangler who is too busy to read a couple of pages of a resume? That is the manglers JOB. One of the manglers most important responsibilities is hiring and retaining the best people possible. How can they do that if they don't have information? And if they are too busy to do their job correctly why do I want work for them?

A resume is a filter of people. It works both ways. It worked for me finding work for years. Hopefully I wont have to do it again but I think that is wishful thinking on my part with today's realities.

In my world it's pretty simple. I hire well paid professionals to get stuff done in a clear, concise manner as quickly and with as little intervention from me as possible. If the layout and text of your resume doesn't convey to me that you can do that then you will never get an interview. Getting an interview is the point of a resume, not to convey your life's work in multiple volumes. That's what coffee breaks are for after you get the job ;)

In Eddie's case here the first page is his resume. The other pages are the 'telephone' interview. If they like what they see enough to have him come look the job over, that is the 'in person' interview. :D
 
   / Your Opinion Please. #32  
I will comment on a different angle from what others have advised on (content)
...I currently make a good amount of money administrating (yellow page type) business directories on the web...If you are looking at the Internet to enhance your advertising scheme don't make the mistake of overlooking the benefit of good SEO (Search Engine Optimization)

...Word of mouth is a great way to expand your recognition in the market place but nothing will get your word out better or faster to a wider audience than good search engine placement...
...You can create the best web site in the world with excellent content, presentation and navigation but without good SEO...the only people that will find it are those that already know about it...


Your web page will seve you best with the biggest exposure/audience you can get...search engines are a web page's best friend...take advantage of them...

"Local Search" is one of the fastest growing sectors of Internet search...as mentioned in a recent thread about yellow page advertising...print ads are going the way of the steam engine...search engines are the ticket...!

Some SEO basics...

Title your pages appropriately and make sure the title is relative (make sure to use <Title></Title> tags...Your page title should contain at least one or more of your "keywords"

keywords make sure to include relative keywords both in your 'Title' and the content of the page (text)..."keywords" should be relative to the content i.e. what you are selling..even if it is a service rather than a distinct product...also make sure to include your keywords in <meta> tags in the header of your source code (meta tag content is not seen by the public but is by search engines)

header tags "header tags" <h1>, <h2> and<h3> tags are paramount to get good search engine recognition...always use one set (and one set only) of <h1> tags per page...they should bracket the most important statement (text) on a page...likewise with the <h2> and <h3> tags but you can use multiple sets of the latter on a single page...it is extremely important to use the same keywords (text) in the h1 tags as you use in both the <title> and the meta (keyword) tags...

These three SEO basics will get your page indexed by search engines like Google, Yahoo, BING etc..etc. very quickly...sometime within a few days when your "keywords" are used in a search query...

Like TBN readers know...pictures are worth a 1000 words or more...but as important as pictures are...you must take advantage of "ALT" tags to define the content of any and all images on your pages...If you are not familiar with Alt tags... hover your cursor over an image and a small text box pops up...you are looking at the result of "Alt" tags if there are no alt tags there is no pop up...(alt tags were originally developed for use by handicapped (blind) users...but have become very important in SEO)
...search engine crawlers can't see pictures but they do read (and index) the content of "Alt" tags...use succinct descriptive text in Alt tags.

I would be happy to expand on any of these tips if they are not clear
 
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#33  
Thank you everyone for taking the time to reply and offer me your advice. It's been better then I had hoped. It's good to hear what others think about what I've written, and what they are looking for. Potential clients are probably seeing it and having the same problems with it as all of you are. I'm working on cutting down on the ramblings, and getting to the point.

Pictures are giving me issues. I've figured out how to add pictures to the page, but creating folders for them so I can have them in a catagory have not worked out so far. Something like a folder for decks, bathrooms, floors, fireplaces and so on.

For those of you who want to see what I have so far, go to Home Page

The next rainy day, I'm going to print this out and highlight all the things that I want to change, add and get rid of. Then put them onto a word document to get the spelling right, and then copy and past it to my site.

As for hiring a pro, I"m going to remain stuborn there and keep at it myself. It's a character flaw, but not one of my worse ones!!!! LOL

Eddie
 
   / Your Opinion Please. #34  
Maybe a little different perspective---some websites try to lure customers by giving tips, recommendations, how-tos. If you have some ideas about the kind of work you want, then try to position yourself as someone who has the expertise in that work who is honest and dependable.

I don't look for trades people on the internet. I ask at the local building supplier. I ask people I know who've built something, and I ask them who did their work and if they are satisfied.

When you start bringing in help, be careful to use help that builds your reputation instead of tearing it down. If there are any problems, you're the one who'll get the calls.
 
   / Your Opinion Please. #35  
If you get a "pro" to do your site be sure to get one that understands the language of your work. I had a professional do our web site for my kennel and bird dog training business and on the first draft she had over 40 spelling and grammar mistakes. Although we had talked at length about what I did she still did not understand the jargon of the dog world.
Keep it short but precise, good pics, and you will have a winner.
Good luck.
 
   / Your Opinion Please. #36  
Eddie, I've seen a lot of good ideas and constructive criticism here. I'm wondering if all considered if you would even need the "pro" as well. I'm not saying that the "pros" aren't needed but you are asking a bunch of "Do-it-yourselfers"!:D Let's face it if pros weren't needed you wouldn't have need for this effort. I agree with others when they say keep it to the point, use tabs, bullets when breaking it down and most of all pictures.

Jay
 
   / Your Opinion Please. #37  
In my world it's pretty simple. I hire well paid professionals to get stuff done in a clear, concise manner as quickly and with as little intervention from me as possible. If the layout and text of your resume doesn't convey to me that you can do that then you will never get an interview. Getting an interview is the point of a resume, not to convey your life's work in multiple volumes. That's what coffee breaks are for after you get the job ;)

In Eddie's case here the first page is his resume. The other pages are the 'telephone' interview. If they like what they see enough to have him come look the job over, that is the 'in person' interview. :D

How do I as the job seeker KNOW exactly what the hiring manager wants/needs?

I dont know. I will know they want X, Y and Z because it is listed as a required skill. But there might be other skills that they would like but do not realize or did not list.

I am not talking about having a hard to read book of a resume but one that shows relevant work experience. If a Manager is too lazy to read a couple pieces of paper that should only take them moments to first scan I don't want to work for them. Why waste MY time interviewing with them?

I have been on the job seeker and the job hirer side. NEVER, EVER when I was interviewing people did I have enough information on a resume in the corporate world. I always wanted MORE.

I have done back ground investigations in a non business environment on people. I know how much money the job seeker has made for years, their credit history/ratings, lists of references, friends, employers, and family. All get contacted and contacts are made from those contacts. What the job seeker states is checked and verified. In that job I have enough information about the job seeker. :D

By the time I graduate with a four year degree I had worked for the Federal government doing grunt computer work but also maintaining a district wide network. Created the process, bought the hardware, wrote the software, and implemented a anonymous employee survey across the district. The district was all of FLA south of the lake. Before "computer forensics" meant anything I was looking at computers siezed via a search warrant while CID was still rounding up people in the building.

I had also worked at a major computer company. The work for that company started in HR were I ordered and installed all of the PCs and other computer systems that they needed but never had. Which led to doing research about various issues. Which in turn got me a job working with a department of lobbyists to procure hardware and software as well as creating a database. Eventually I worked in hardware development and software development.

Oh, and I did some consulting on the side. :D

That quick summary would take a page and it has no details and I skipped a few things. No buzzwords. :D Fill in what is needed to give more details and I think it was a three page resume.

The Coop office was using my resume as an example of what a resume should look like as well the value of a Coop work experience. I certainly had a wide range of experience before I got my sheep skin. :D And I NEEDED every bit of it as well. :D

Thinking about what Eddie is doing actually helped ME. :D I am creating my own website but I did not like it for some reason. I had done what Eddie had done to a certain extent but I was starting to split things into different pages. Looking at Eddie's "page" made it obvious what issues I had with my own page but yet could not quite figure out... :rolleyes::eek:

Another problem with websites is that some are just too complicated. They make you work too hard to get the info you for which you are searching. Or they are too fancy. They look good but no info. Just pretty pictures. They use too much Flash in both meanings of the word. The Disney website is a perfect example. Very well done. Lots of Flash. Music. Pretty Pictures. The website is a visual and sound work of art.

But finding information is a different story.

Later,
Dan
 
   / Your Opinion Please. #39  
Another problem with websites is that some are just too complicated. They make you work too hard to get the info you for which you are searching. Or they are too fancy. They look good but no info. Just pretty pictures. They use too much Flash in both meanings of the word. The Disney website is a perfect example. Very well done. Lots of Flash. Music. Pretty Pictures. The website is a visual and sound work of art.

But finding information is a different story.

Right. In Eddies case the whole point is to get them to pick up the phone and call him. Which is why I liken it to a resume.

To me the base message should be:

I am a Professional and I get [stuff] done
Here is some [stuff] I will do
Here is some [stuff] I did
Here is how to contact me to get your [stuff] done.
 
   / Your Opinion Please. #40  
FWIW...meant as pointers/suggestions not criticism...
...As for hiring a pro, I"m going to remain stuborn there and keep at it myself
Speaking as a professional web developer (not necessarily a designer) I see no reason why you need to "hire a pro"...but you can avoid many amateur mistakes with some guidance and research...
For those of you who want to see what I have so far, go to Home Page
As an example of one of the three main items I cited in post #32 (this thread) please take note of the page 'Title'...open the page in a browser and look at the very top bar of the browser window (blue line)...it says "Home Page"...in my opinion the 'Title' of this page should be something like..."Eddie Walker Building Contractor-Construction Specialist"
To see the why/how of the page title view the source code (click "view" from the tool bar and select "source or page source" depending on what browser you use)...look at the 5th line of code for the page:
Code:
<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=EmulateIE7" />    <title>Home Page</title>
scroll to the far right to see the <Title></Title> tags

This is by far one of the most important factors for search engines to find your page once it is indexed...for instance, if your business was named "home page" or you were selling "home page" then that would be a good title for the page but obviously it is not...It is paramount to title each page with something that is relevant to the content and more importantly it should contain a keyword or two that you think will be used when a possible future client is searching with Google, Yahoo, Bing etc...for a contractor etc...

A second example:
General Contractor - Remodeler - Home Repairs - Handy Man
The line of text above is a perfect example of what (for this page) should be bracketed in <h1></h1> tags (I would add "building specialist" to the list or amend the above suggested page title)

Then put them onto a word document to get the spelling right
please note that editing, then copy and pasting text from MS Word into an HTML document often adds (unwanted) markup that will often cause problems when viewed as a web page..i.e. when you "copy" the edited text there will be unseen symbols etc. that can/will cause display problems...

another suggestion
It appears you are using something called "WebSite Tonight v4.8.3" to create your pages...there are some very good WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) web page editors available for free...these are basically drag and drop page constructors...they will make image placement very easy...You do not need to know or understand how HTML markup works to end up with quality web pages...

a few free worthy WYSIWYG editors are:
Nvu Web Authoring Software

Amaya Home Page

HTML Kit for more than editing HTML
 

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