Your thoughts on "Ceramic" auto wax

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I compounded and waxed my (new to me) 13 year old 251 hour Kubota L48 TLB last Summer.
It looks almost new, and current value is more than twice the current value of my Mercedes E-350!
Car?
Why wax a car?
Bet it looks real pretty. (y)

There is little argument that Kubota paint, as well as the competitors, is far from a quality product. By current automotive standards, it's crap.

Though some people think they should apply an automotive finish to these tractors, I understand the cost difference, and it's substantial. So, I wouldn't expect that any time soon.
 
   / Your thoughts on "Ceramic" auto wax #22  
I think JD's paint is pretty good. Goes downhill from there. I consider Kubota's paint marginal at best.
 
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I think JD's paint is pretty good. Goes downhill from there. I consider Kubota's paint marginal at best.

60’s -80’s era Ford tractors were bad IMO. Quite possibly due more to poor prep than paint.
 
   / Your thoughts on "Ceramic" auto wax
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Since it didn’t look any better after I didn’t bother taking another photo. The paint was pretty slick before I applied the ceramic coating. It was rougher after the application. The part I didn’t coat is still slicker.
 
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Since it didn’t look any better after I didn’t bother taking another photo. The paint was pretty slick before I applied the ceramic coating. It was rougher after the application. The part I didn’t coat is still slicker.
For some reason, your car's paint is rougher and less slick AFTER application. Clearly not normal.

In this post you refer to it as a "ceramic coating". Earlier you referred to it as "ceramic polish" and "ceramic wax". "Coating", "polish", and "wax" are not the same things. Exactly what was applied?
 
   / Your thoughts on "Ceramic" auto wax #26  
I put high-end ceramic on a new BMW M2 in 2019. It was a fairly expensive C-Quartz product that normally people pay to have applied, but I did it myself. The amount of labor was insane and it was complicated. I would never use that product (or similar) again. Too complicated and too many opportunities to mess up and make your car look worse. I've seen poor applications on a dark car and it's a horror show; at least my car was white, which is more forgiving.

Wipe it on (sparingly) in a small area in a thorough crosshatch pattern, let the carrier flash off (about 45 seconds), then buff it out. If you miss a spot when buffing, it leaves a rainbow distortion that you can usually fix if caught in time. If not, that spot needs to be polished (with abrasives) to get the ceramic off, then repeat the process there.

About 12 hours after that first step, you need to follow up with a second product that adds smoothness and extra shine (the first step looked OK but left a dull feeling). And that second "reload" product is meant to be applied after any car washes. In fact, it's required to maintain the performance and warranty of the ceramic coating.

What I wanted from the ceramic is improved protection from bird droppings (I have seen them etch clearcoat in a matter of hours). Since the high end ceramics essentially put a coating of glass over the surface, it gives an extra layer of protection that normal wax cannot. It's not permanent and the ceramic itself can be damaged or scratched. The main thing you are getting is that extra layer of glass-like protection.

The downside is that you need to do that "reload" product after every wash. I don't wash my cars a lot, but even then, this is a pain. If someone washes their car frequently, they may as well just wax the car with a normal product after every wash.

On my new 2020 truck I tried Turtle Wax hybrid ceramic spray wax. It had gotten some very good reviews and caught my attention. Very easy to apply and looks great. I doubt it offers the same protection as the pro product (it was only $8 for a bottle, whereas the pro stuff was over $150). But it's theoretically better than regular wax products, and does contain some of the ceramic benefits and protection. I don't plan to wash my new truck often (last truck got washed once in 7 years) but I'll probably try to reapply this Turtle Wax stuff at least once a year if I can.
 
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I have used ceramic on my car a couple of times but it is a lot of work to do it properly. It needs washed, dried, polished and then the ceramic applied. It certainly makes a difference when done properly however the paint on my car is really beyond looking exceptional now. Ceramic works well on my model aeroplane wings. Reduces the drag considerably.
 
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Wow..."Ceramic Coating - Car Wax Polish Spray - Waterless Car Wash & Wax - Hydrophobic Top Coat Polish & Polymer Paint Sealant"! Truly Magic in a Bottle! :) This stuff does everything...NOT! It sounds like some marketing person took every buzzword in the detailing industry and strung them together.

Personal Opinion: Trash it.

The good news? I doubt it did any permanent damage. I suspect it is possible the rough surface was there before this stuff was applied.

The paint needs to be thoroughly cleaned. Start with a good strip wash, or two! Once clean, the surface VERY likely needs to be de-contaminated. Then at least a light polishing. And finally, some form of paint protection.

If you have the money, a detail shop can do all of this and have your car looking like new. If your a do-it-yourself consider buying your products from a single source that offers email/telephone assistance. For example, I use Adam's Polish and have been very happy with the products, customer support, and forum.

 

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