Your thoughts on my basement plans

   / Your thoughts on my basement plans
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#61  
A little more info. Our main goal is to add on a large 24x48 room that has 12 ft walls and exposed beam ceiling with a 6:12 pitch roof. If all goes well, I hope to start on the dirt work in the spring. Just need to finish a few projects over the winter first and save up enough money to get started. This is my number one priority project, and something I've been day dreaming about for years!!! Off to the side there will be a 16x16 sun/garden room for my wife. This is what she has been dreaming of having for years.

The dimensions for everything is pretty much set in stone. After the two tornadoes that came so close to us last winter, we go to thinking that it would be nice to have a tornado shelter. First, and most obvious plan was to build it above ground into the corner of where I plan to build a new workshop. Simple, easy and effective. But not really ideal. One of those projects that I'm working on now is a canning/processing room on the other side of our house from where the new room will be built. Karen is really into gardening, and we are both borderline preppers with a desire to be as off the grid as we possibly can. Storing food and supplies is always going to be something we will never have enough space for. The canning room is 12x24 with quite a bit of storage space, but we can see where it's not going to be enough fairly quickly.

Out thinking then turned to adding a small basement. In all reality, I could make it a lot smaller, but with the size of the room above being 16x16, I feel it just makes more sense to use the walls of the basement as footings for the sun room above it. Access will be from an exterior door inside the sun room that leads to stairs down to the basement where I will install another door. I'm still unsure about this lower door. I doubt a standard exterior door will be enough is we are hit by a tornado. I can get solid core doors used in commercial buildings that would be a lot stronger, then add extra hinges with longer screws to hold it in place, and add a massive bolt system to lock it into place. This is all in the air as I tend to let the smaller details wait until I have something to work with and then make a final decision then. Under the stairs will be a camper type portapotty with plastic bags. I plan on having some cots down there, or a couple of futons and lots of shelving for canned foods. I don't see any need for heating or cooling it year round since we will rarely go down there except to increase our food supply. To keep warm, I'm sure we will just stock it with blankets or maybe an electric space heater if we have power, if not, we are in survival mode and just going to listen to the battery radio and huddle up in blankets.
 
   / Your thoughts on my basement plans #62  
Sounds like a good plan. I hate tornadoes!! :laughing: About the scariest thing on earth.... Except for lighting! :eek:
 
   / Your thoughts on my basement plans #63  
Eddie,
Since youæ±*e still planning stages keep in mind that you may have to get in the room in the middle of night with maybe no power.

Look at commercial grade steel doors with high density foam core they have options for additional top and bottom latches that are rated.

About 2 years ago a cat2 tornado went right down our main street, bent the police radio tower which had a warning siren which never went off. We live about ï½½ mile from town, wife was in great room and me in our bed room not knowing the forecast, she found out thru face book that something was going on after the fact. :( About a week later some thunder storms came thru our area and we sat in our storm room that time. :laughing:
Dave
 
   / Your thoughts on my basement plans #64  
Eddie, just consider: The cost of gravel, foam board and pex at the early stage of a project like yours, is just a drop in the bucket. If you don't do it, there is no second chance. Given that it is such a hot climate for so much of the year, I think that, if finished out nice, a basement like that can be a cool, quiet place to go when it is hot out. When I say finish out, resist the temptation to stud and drywall the walls too. That kills the effect of the thermal mass. You don't want the experience spoiled by damp surfaces and musty odors. I have been in many a horror basement here in MI.
 
   / Your thoughts on my basement plans #65  
Personally I think it is foolish to build that much space for only emergency use. Our basement is home to a guest bedroom/wine cellar (a big hit with company). Also a sort of man cave with pool table. Wife doesn't think she appreciates the space as much as me but she forgets she stores her garden harvests among other things in this space. You being a DIY kind of guy, should really think about a multi-purpose room. My two cents... Again. I'm probably over a nickel at at least now. It can be a wonderful retreat on a hot day. Or a place you can crank the tunes if you are into that. Bottom line... Moisture will be your bane so deal with that from the start.
 
   / Your thoughts on my basement plans #66  
Personally I think it is foolish to build that much space for only emergency use. Our basement is home to a guest bedroom/wine cellar (a big hit with company). Also a sort of man cave with pool table. Wife doesn't think she appreciates the space as much as me but she forgets she stores her garden harvests among other things in this space. You being a DIY kind of guy, should really think about a multi-purpose room. My two cents... Again. I'm probably over a nickel at at least now. It can be a wonderful retreat on a hot day. Or a place you can crank the tunes if you are into that. Bottom line... Moisture will be your bane so deal with that from the start.


I'll second dragoneggs comments. We just finished out our basement recently and love the space. It's quiet, cool, and great hangout place for both the kids and us. Might be worth the effort to at least plan for finishing it at a later time. Rough in materials to get it ready for future use would not add much to the cost.
 
   / Your thoughts on my basement plans
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Thank you for the suggestions of finishing out the basement, but I'm an outdoors kind of guy and unless I'm sick, like I am this week, I am going to be outside doing something during the day unless it's raining outside. In the evening, I like to watch TV or movies, which will put me in my future great room with the biggest screen I can afford. I'm hoping for something in the 100 inch range because my 55 inch screen is just too small!! I want to be in my great room, it's what drives me to do this, and where I feel will be my happy place when indoors. My current happy place is too small at 15x18, so it's going to become our dinning room when this is all said and done. Just like the two bedrooms and a bathroom upstairs that I never go to, I doubt I will ever go into the basement unless it's to put something in there for my wife. Odds are very good that she will be the one going in there for her stuff. Other then a place to be safe during tornado warnings, I have very little interest in this space other then creating it.
 
   / Your thoughts on my basement plans #68  
Looking forward to seeing your build. We have a 65" tv upstairs in the great room. Ended up with a projector downstairs since we can control light. Projector screen is 112" diagonal. We enjoy it more than going to the movies. We tend to watch regular tv upstairs but everyone heads to the basement for movies. If light wash wasn't an issue with the projector we would have one upstairs as well.
 
   / Your thoughts on my basement plans #69  
Thank you for the suggestions of finishing out the basement, but I'm an outdoors kind of guy and unless I'm sick, like I am this week, I am going to be outside doing something during the day unless it's raining outside. In the evening, I like to watch TV or movies, which will put me in my future great room with the biggest screen I can afford. I'm hoping for something in the 100 inch range because my 55 inch screen is just too small!! I want to be in my great room, it's what drives me to do this, and where I feel will be my happy place when indoors. My current happy place is too small at 15x18, so it's going to become our dinning room when this is all said and done. Just like the two bedrooms and a bathroom upstairs that I never go to, I doubt I will ever go into the basement unless it's to put something in there for my wife. Odds are very good that she will be the one going in there for her stuff. Other then a place to be safe during tornado warnings, I have very little interest in this space other then creating it.

I think a lot of folks (like me) treat our basements just like another room in the house. Its warm and cozy when its brutal and -10F in winter and its cool and refreshing when its pushing 100 in summer. Ours isn't finished. We've got storage, our laundry room, a chest freezer and an extra refrigerator, a work-out area with a weight stack and a Nordic Track, and a ton of food and water and a computer and TV to watch while working out. But... ours sticks out of the ground 2' and we have small windows. It serves a different function than what you want yours to serve as. If we ever build a new house on our property, it will have a walk-out basement on one side, but will have a full concrete room in one corner for storms.

Will be watching your project. They're always interesting for sure. :thumbsup:
 

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