Your towing rigs and trailers

[Duffster]

Right here:

LOL, I guess I missed that part.

 

[Builder]

I'm here to help you duffster, you may not believe it with all the eye rolling, but it's true.

 

[Duffster]

I'm here to help you duffster, you may not believe it with all the eye rolling, but it's true.

Let me get my boots on

 

[LBrown59]

Aw, horsecrap.

My Tacoma's got a 5500lb hitch on it, I got a 7000lb trailer, no way I'm not gonna tow a 3500 tractor or car on it because someone who has issues with their manhood telling me I need a full size.

BTW, my Taco is rated a 1/2 ton, not some 1/4 ton jeep trailer. And it handles loads WELL over what would be considered legal, safely and comfortably. I don't pretend to be Don Prudhomme on the onramps. And I would do it every day if it required, and have done many trips across the US with it towing in 200,000 miles.

So are you saying my Toyota and Nassian picks will handle towing the BX23 ok.

 

[Builder]

What does your tractor weigh? Maybe 3,000lbs? What is your truck rated to tow?

 

[farmboy12]

So are you saying my Toyota and Nassian picks will handle towing the BX23 ok.

Yes, they can do it. Just get recievers and trailer brakes set up to do it. Look at the link at the bottom. If you got that, place you BX over the axles stratigicly as to get about 250lbs-300lbs of tongue weight on your truck. If I'm correct, with that placement should have very little squat with that load.

What does your tractor weigh? Maybe 3,000lbs? What is your truck rated to tow?

We borrowed a BX23 that weighed 2700lbs without a deck. His has a deck, so I guess about 3k.



If he got a single 5k axle, or two 3500lb axles on a 12'-14' trailer he would be fine. Especially if it was a no-rail, wood deck, single 5k axle. He could do it with just a single 3500lb axle, thats what we did, it doesn't even have brakes. It's not the best but would do OK for occasional hauling.



Something like this would work well LB: http://www.metzlerauto.com/TrailerPics/TWF5512TA.JPG


Kyle

 

[radioman]

Nice set up

Sure wish I could use my perfectly good Nissan or Toyota pick ups.
You don't know how I hate to buy a bigger truck that I really dont like when I all readv have 2 pick ups that I just love.

thanks LBrown. I have a question. Do you have any idea what your trucks is rated for towing ?

Dargo- that spare part is not for sale I need it to mow the lawn. LOL ! I took it off to shave 250 pounds so I can carry extra firewood on way back home.

Diamondpilot- funny about the volvo truck comment. That sure brought a smile to my lips!

Farmboy- so true about its would be nice to have a larger truck, but sometimes to do with what you got and as long you don't push it like you would with a larger truck , it will do the job just fine.

 

[archerm3]

What part am I misunderstanding? Is it horse crap to try to use manufacturer's ratings as a safety guide to what is prudent to do with the vehicle they designed and built? Manhood issues would seem to be in the providence of the folks who insist on using their equipment "out of the envelope" as some sort of macho thing.

One of the things my first instructor pilot said to me in flight training (that really stuck) was, "There are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are few old bold pilots.

Pat

You are misunderstanding. I listed the manufacturers ratings and I said that no one was going to tell me that I couldn't use the ratings to the maximum extent just because a Taco isn't a full size. Nice quote though, I used it myself when I was teaching young LT's and WO's how to fly.

Right here:

You didn't read that right.

And it handles loads WELL over what would be considered legal, Comma as in take a breath and then continue safely and comfortably.

My implication is that what is legal has so many safety factors applied for idiots and litigation that you can still be over what is legal and still be safe. I SAID CAN, WHICH IS NOT THE SAME AS ALWAYS. What is legal and what is a manufacturer's suggestion is not always the same. I am not necessarily advocating being over what is legal, but why doesn't someone enlighten me as to how EXACTLY THEY KNOW EVERY TIME much riprap you can stuff on a trailer before it goes overweight. Scales aren't often at construction sites. But they **** sure can be on the way home, and they generally don't like to have you offload trash on their scales. BTW, there is a LOT of guys running around with skid steers that have no idea how much they've overloaded thier couplers or ballmounts. Probably without functioning trailer brakes too. My trooper aquaintances say that they're like shooting fish in a barrel. But by gosh they sure do have fancy monster trucks with 400hp diesels.

All you gotta do is look at the a vehicle that's offered in two different markets, that vehicle being exactly the same, and see the difference in loading capacities.

I also believe that there is a lot of drivers out that don't know how to load and tongue weight trailers, adjust their brake controllers, adjust tire pressure, and flat out hold their hands on the steering wheel so that their rig tracks straight down the road. Lot's of people can't back a trailer without a ground guide, a gps reciever, silly coathangers on the hitch/coupler, and a rear view camera. I believe that I'm an above average driver, as do each and every one of you do too.

All we are talking about is 5000 lbs total max on a trailer, including trailer weight folks.

Lastly I would like to say is look at what qualified for a 3/4 ton truck in the 60's and what does now, and what people "think" you need to tow with, it doesn't make any other sense to me other than "I got a bigger XXXX ahem i mean wallet than you". Look at the transmissions, axles, brake size, and vehicle weights and there is no correlation. Mostly it's about engine horsepower and not having to slow down on the very steepest of hills, at 90mph. Because the capacities of trannys, axles, brakes, and hitches havent changed. Then again, maybe some of you are used to chevys fords and dodges not living up to their expectations because the engineer's don't overbuild their products as some other manufacturers. Maybe. Maybe their safety factors are different.

Y'all have a good day.

 

[archerm3]

So are you saying my Toyota and Nassian picks will handle towing the BX23 ok.

I would think so, what are the numbers?

 

[Builder]

Wow. There's a lot of pent up anger around here.

Maybe it's the bad economy?