Zero turn fatality

[dodge man]

On my JD the ROPS has a forward lean to it and is pretty tall. I’ve just cut all my trees high enough so it doesn’t catch any branches. The big problem is I have to lower it every time I put it away since it hit my house soffits.

 

[scootr]

Folding ROPs should be a thing of the past. Too easy to put it down and leave it down for convenience sake.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Folding ROPs should be a thing of the past. Too easy to put it down and leave it down for convenience sake.

No thank you, I like being able to store my machines indoors, while still having a ROPS that when up is taller than I am.

 

[scootr]

My Kubota MX5200 is the first folding ROPs I have owned. It is the first of it's kind I have owned. All the others had real ROPS and yet they all fit in the barn 8ft door.

 

[tacticalturnip]

My Kubota MX5200 is the first folding ROPs I have owned. It is the first of it's kind I have owned. All the others had real ROPS and yet they all fit in the barn 8ft door.

Ayuh, well we don't all park our machines in a barn, and I've smacked the ROPS into my garage enough times to know it doesn't fit.

 

[BigBlue1]

ROPS can be dangerous too. John Dee in the UP of Michigan was involved and it turned fatal during an accident on his ZTR with the ROPS up. He hit a tree and flipped it. Damaged his internal organs and he died at the hospital due to the injuries. Stuff can happen in an instant. We demo'd a ZTR a few years ago and it had the ROPS up. Was driving it near a tree and caught the branches somewhat with it. It did have a pop up incident and that was enough for me to determine you gotta be careful with the safety equipment too.

That's not actually what happened. His lowered ROPS caught an apple tree branch which pulled down a larger portion that hit him in the back of the head. Broken vertebra and minor brain bleed. He had long-term heart issues which ultimately took him something like 5 weeks later as he was going through the pre-transplant process. I'm not saying that I know the incident wasn't somehow contributing, but the ROPS wasn't up, the mower didn't flip, and he didn't pass away in the hospital from injuries.

 

[mikester]

ROPS and vertical muffler stacks seem to be tree branch magnets.

Even if you make the ROPS permanent someone will find a way to injure or kill themselves. You can't 100% idiot proof anything.

 

[RandyT]

Making the ROPS permanent would be a good way to get them cut off or removed entirely. I have seen a few permanent setups and my issue is some of them are very tall, a lot taller than they need to be. No reason to have the rollover bar 3 feet above the operators head.

 

[scootr]

Industrial and commercial grade equipment have permanent ROPS. Only homeowner grade grade equipment has folding ROPs. There will always be people who cut off the ROP and buckle the seatbelt then get in and sit on it...Operate at your own risks.
My friend was dragging an I beam with an old tractor that had a manual gearbox and no ROP system. The I beam got caught on a rock and the tractor came up and over breaking his back.

 

[tacticalturnip]

There are many things that could have prevented that, to include the ROPS; while it's a terrible and unnecessary death it's no reason to dictate fixed ROPS. At some point personal responsibility comes into play.

 

[CliffordK]

Making the ROPS permanent would be a good way to get them cut off or removed entirely. I have seen a few permanent setups and my issue is some of them are very tall, a lot taller than they need to be. No reason to have the rollover bar 3 feet above the operators head.

As I understand it, car roll bars and tractor ROPS are different.

A car roll bar is designed for the car to completely roll over one or more times, and prevent crushing from the roof.

A tractor ROPS is designed for the tractor to flop on the side, and prevent it from making a complete roll over.

Thus, tall and narrow.

It is possible they could be redesigned to be more user friendly.

 

[tradosaurus]

Ayuh, well we don't all park our machines in a barn, and I've smacked the ROPS into my garage enough times to know it doesn't fit.

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I made sure to have a metal carport installed that will fit my tractor with the ROPs raised.

 

[Bansil]

Ayuh, well we don't all park our machines in a barn, and I've smacked the ROPS into my garage enough times to know it doesn't fit.

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E=mc2
So, apparently the speed of the mass was not enough at the time of 1st impact, to make followup impacts NOT hit, which would of allowed the tractor to fit the first time.

Try it again, only faster your welcome...

 

[DarkBlack]

E=mc2
So, apparently the speed of the mass was not enough at the time of 1st impact, to make followup impacts NOT hit, which would of allowed the tractor to fit the first time.

Try it again, only faster your welcome...

You want p=m*v for your joke to work.
It’s the momentum formula

 

[Bansil]

You want p=m*v for your joke to work.
It’s the momentum formula

Depends on where your from really, I mean "hold my beer" TRUMPS a lot of grammar issues and logical science

In my defense, I did do basic algebra twice....girl in the class passed me a note wanting to know why I was ignoring her, I crumpled the note and threw it at her. Beotch hit me over the head with her algebra book! I stood up and flipped her desk backwards....I got kicked out of class.
She was pissed because she came over to my folks house and wanted to "play" it sucked or she didn't....it wasn't worth my time to see her again....apparently her feelzs were hurt


No matter the math, it doesn't lie...he still wasn't going fast enough ...ima right?

 

[RayIN]

Not long after I bought my Hustler Z, I was mowing next the road side-ditch when the drive wheel slipped over the edge. The Hustler flipped over sideways and I caught the weight of me and mower with my left arm.
I turned off the key with my right hand and finally got away from the mower.
I've been post-phoning shoulder replacement surgery for about 18 years. I see a joint Dr. every 6 months and get a shot of something in my shoulder joint. This reduces the pain enough so I can work almost normally, but cannot work with anything over shoulder height.

 

[SmallChange]

I think that is a separate incident.

Yes, I think you're right. The Fallston incident isn't far from me. I looked on aerial photos (mapping is a bit of a hobby) and figured out that the ravine is in the center of this view:

2300 Willow Vale Dr · 2300 Willow Vale Dr, Fallston, MD 21047

Building

www.google.com

 

[QRTRHRS]

Retired doctor drowns after falling into lake while mowing

ZTR's also slide easy. This accident was back in 2021. I would think that he went into a slide then broke through his fence. I knew this man. My wife had seen him for knee and shoulder issues.

My current mower, a SCAG Turf Tiger II slides easy. I really have to watch making a turn while going down a grade. My previous mower, a Woods branded Grasshopper with a front mounted deck and rear castor wheels was much better on slopes.

 

[kenmbz]

Retired doctor drowns after falling into lake while mowing

ZTR's also slide easy. This accident was back in 2021. I would think that he went into a slide then broke through his fence. I knew this man. My wife had seen him for knee and shoulder issues.

My current mower, a SCAG Turf Tiger II slides easy. I really have to watch making a turn while going down a grade. My previous mower, a Woods branded Grasshopper with a front mounted deck and rear castor wheels was much better on slopes.

Sad stuff, I guess fence area had eroded and there went his only safety.

 

[tradosaurus]

Retired doctor drowns after falling into lake while mowing

ZTR's also slide easy. This accident was back in 2021. I would think that he went into a slide then broke through his fence. I knew this man. My wife had seen him for knee and shoulder issues.

My current mower, a SCAG Turf Tiger II slides easy. I really have to watch making a turn while going down a grade. My previous mower, a Woods branded Grasshopper with a front mounted deck and rear castor wheels was much better on slopes.

Replace the turf tires with bar lug tires.