ZTR Advice/Models? Sorry to beat a dead horse :)

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tillboy2001

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Hi,

I've looked around at some of the threads here and some have been helpful. But I don't see any that are specific to my needs. So far I think the Gravely/Ariens Zoom 1640 model is the best in my price range (good frame and IZT trans). I don't think I can swing more than around $3,000 (possibly $3,500 total) for this purchase - because of my wife /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif . I would like to buy something to replace a Craftsman 46" cut rider - about 9 years old. Terrain is sometimes sloping (fairly steep in a few spots) and lots of obstacles (trees, shrubs, landscaping). I would like something in the 40"- 42" cut size. It takes me about 2 hours to mow the yard now - about 2 acres total. I figure if I get a zero turn, it'll be quicker even if I get a slightly smaller deck and I can fit in a few tight spots I can't get to with the rider I have now.

I would likely replace the turf tires with something that has more bite. If the grass is wet, I can see myself sliding down the hill like I did on the rider before replacing the turf tires on that. Although, I watched a pro landscaper mowing one day somewhere else and I was amazed at the traction he had on hills (although the grass was dry).

I'm not familiar with some of the lesser known brands... so could you all please chime in on your thoughts about a zero turn mower that fits my price range? - make/model ($2,500 to $3,500) I briefly looked at the Cub Cadet and Troy Bilt models Home Depot and Lowes has...but I'm afraid those wouldn't hold up over time. I'm not rough on mowers and it would only be used once a week in spring, less in summer, not much at all in fall and none in winter - will be stored inside, in my basement.
 
   / ZTR Advice/Models? Sorry to beat a dead horse :)
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Hi,

I've looked around at some of the threads here and some have been helpful. But I don't see any that are specific to my needs. So far I think the Gravely/Ariens Zoom 1640 model is the best in my price range (good frame and IZT trans). I don't think I can swing more than around $3,000 (possibly $3,500 total) for this purchase - because of my wife /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif . I would like to buy something to replace a Craftsman 46" cut rider - about 9 years old. Terrain is sometimes sloping (fairly steep in a few spots) and lots of obstacles (trees, shrubs, landscaping). I would like something in the 40"- 42" cut size. It takes me about 2 hours to mow the yard now - about 2 acres total. I figure if I get a zero turn, it'll be quicker even if I get a slightly smaller deck and I can fit in a few tight spots I can't get to with the rider I have now.

I would likely replace the turf tires with something that has more bite. If the grass is wet, I can see myself sliding down the hill like I did on the rider before replacing the turf tires on that. Although, I watched a pro landscaper mowing one day somewhere else and I was amazed at the traction he had on hills (although the grass was dry).

I'm not familiar with some of the lesser known brands... so could you all please chime in on your thoughts about a zero turn mower that fits my price range? - make/model ($2,500 to $3,500) I briefly looked at the Cub Cadet and Troy Bilt models Home Depot and Lowes has...but I'm afraid those wouldn't hold up over time. I'm not rough on mowers and it would only be used once a week in spring, less in summer, not much at all in fall and none in winter - will be stored inside, in my basement.
 
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Take a look at the Cub Cadet Z-Force 44", list is #3,599.00 and is twice the machine the RZT is (the one you saw at HD).
 
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Take a look at the Cub Cadet Z-Force 44", list is #3,599.00 and is twice the machine the RZT is (the one you saw at HD).
 
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Is there ever any negotiating on things like this at some dealers or is it pretty much always MSRP and that's it? I'm guessing MSRP.

I'm sort of debating on whether I NEED a ZTR mower. It would be the best solution I think, but given my self-imposed budget...my mind wanders back to regular riders - if I can find one with a tight turning radius. I can do without something to get in tight spaces if I find something that gives me the tight turns and good quality.

What limits me now is:
1. Crappy turning radius on what I have now.
2. Manual transmission - which means I need to reach down and switch the lever for forward or reverse.

So anyway, for less than $3,000 I could get a powerful machine that's built pretty well like a Cub Cadet GT1550 (or something similar). I'll check out the ZTR's and see what I come up with first. My preference would be a ZTR since all I need it for is mowing.
 
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Is there ever any negotiating on things like this at some dealers or is it pretty much always MSRP and that's it? I'm guessing MSRP.

I'm sort of debating on whether I NEED a ZTR mower. It would be the best solution I think, but given my self-imposed budget...my mind wanders back to regular riders - if I can find one with a tight turning radius. I can do without something to get in tight spaces if I find something that gives me the tight turns and good quality.

What limits me now is:
1. Crappy turning radius on what I have now.
2. Manual transmission - which means I need to reach down and switch the lever for forward or reverse.

So anyway, for less than $3,000 I could get a powerful machine that's built pretty well like a Cub Cadet GT1550 (or something similar). I'll check out the ZTR's and see what I come up with first. My preference would be a ZTR since all I need it for is mowing.
 
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The CC ZForce's are nice machines. If I was gonna spend around $3500... that would be my machine of choice.

It is a shame Craftsman doesn't still make the 4-wheel steer riding mowers. My brother-in-law has one that is about 10 years old. It has been a great machine and has never had any kind of problem related to the steering. Kind of makes me wonder why they quit producing them? And it's still not a ZTR... but, it's a far cry from any 2 wheel steer mower I've ever seen. Cutting around a small tree without missing any grass isn't a problem. I know JD makes some of the 4-wheel steers... but they are expensive. Kubota has the GR series which is real nice also.... so nice they cost about $8k!

Good luck.
 
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The CC ZForce's are nice machines. If I was gonna spend around $3500... that would be my machine of choice.

It is a shame Craftsman doesn't still make the 4-wheel steer riding mowers. My brother-in-law has one that is about 10 years old. It has been a great machine and has never had any kind of problem related to the steering. Kind of makes me wonder why they quit producing them? And it's still not a ZTR... but, it's a far cry from any 2 wheel steer mower I've ever seen. Cutting around a small tree without missing any grass isn't a problem. I know JD makes some of the 4-wheel steers... but they are expensive. Kubota has the GR series which is real nice also.... so nice they cost about $8k!

Good luck.
 
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Thanks. From what I've seen so far, in that price range that's the only thing worth having. I looked at the models Home Depot sells and they are cheap looking.

It's up in the air right now, but I'm starting to lean more towards a traditional rider since I can get it cheaper and get much more machine for the price. I turned the wheel on a CC 1550 model with the 25HP Kohler and 50" deck....it turns much sharper than my old Craftsman. I'd give up being able to squeeze into small spaces if it meant getting a much more durable machine for less than $3,000 (the 1550 retails for $2,400).
 
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Thanks. From what I've seen so far, in that price range that's the only thing worth having. I looked at the models Home Depot sells and they are cheap looking.

It's up in the air right now, but I'm starting to lean more towards a traditional rider since I can get it cheaper and get much more machine for the price. I turned the wheel on a CC 1550 model with the 25HP Kohler and 50" deck....it turns much sharper than my old Craftsman. I'd give up being able to squeeze into small spaces if it meant getting a much more durable machine for less than $3,000 (the 1550 retails for $2,400).
 

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