Tesla semi

[Btown]

That's not a negative. Moving a major pollution source far from population centers is a major plus for public health; far fewer city children growing up with respiratory damage.

I guess they have no power plants near cities where you live. Around here that is where all the powers plants are because they use the most power. The only ones not near cities are the nuclear ones and they are closing down due to age. If the demand for electricity rises much more in New England they will not be able to supply it. The natural gas lines are maxed out. Several companies have moratoriums on new services and people are out there protesting any expansion of the pipelines.

 

[vvanders]

Totally agreed that $60k is unreasonable, thankfully battery tech is still pretty new. Prices have been and are continuing to drop significantly.

Even at your prices at 325wH/mi still comes out at 46mpg equivalent which is pretty darn good for such a large car.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Can Hydrogen Injection save the diesel engine? | Writing about cars

My son has just started diesel college and was told Hydrogen was the next step for diesel engines. He said one gallon of distilled water would make a lot of hydrogen today. Not sure what he was talking about however.

 

[Redneck in training]

So I had to go to Jackson Hole Wyoming and Yellowstone this summer and this sight caught my attention. Electric cars, mostly from California, having to either be rescued or provide their own energy for charging up their car. The hotels in Jackson had signs that said they have no facilities to charge EV and they should not take them to Yellowstone because they too do not have charging facilities. That did not stop people, they just had a Honda generator and 5 gallons of gas that they would chain to their rim and charge their cars with. It was the funniest thing I ever saw, and carrying around a jug of gas kinda defeats the purpose of EV. But it shows just how much infrastructure would be needed for EV to be viable on a large scale. I do not think the park service in Yellowstone would build out huge parking lots with charging stations at each spot.

Now Toyota has discovered the EV is great in concept, but their success would be dependent upon power companies producing cheap power, distribution companies building out the grid, and local business like hotels providing charging stations for their clients, not to mention cities proving stations on street sides. It would be a massive investment on a lot of levels. The thing that makes the internal combustion engine so workable is the ability to have a centrally located gas stations that can serve thousands of people fast and efficiently with a fuel source. EV would go away from a central location to individual stations. Toyota knows the best approach is to be able to stick with a central location distribution system, where a hydrogen tank could be located next to gas and diesel. No need to reinvent the wheel, just refine it...don't forget Toyota started the hybrid thing with the Prius. If the EV was workable, Toyota would have already been on it.

The EV is great if you don't ever leave a radius of your house where you know 100% you could recharge every night. Hydrogen fuel cells make the most sense, no grid updates and the range is limited by the size of the tank. Plus it would be far cheaper to just add a hydrogen tank to a gas station than add charging stations everywhere. Musk is doing good things to further technology, but I don't see EV as the future of transportation.

99% of our driving is in radius of the ecar. I figured that if we rent a car and drive for vacation we will still end up few thousand dollars ahead per ear.

 

[houstonscott]

99% of our driving is in radius of the ecar. I figured that if we rent a car and drive for vacation we will still end up few thousand dollars ahead per ear.

Excuses.

 

[Citydude]

So I had to go to Jackson Hole Wyoming and Yellowstone this summer and this sight caught my attention. Electric cars, mostly from California, having to either be rescued or provide their own energy for charging up their car. The hotels in Jackson had signs that said they have no facilities to charge EV and they should not take them to Yellowstone because they too do not have charging facilities. That did not stop people, they just had a Honda generator and 5 gallons of gas that they would chain to their rim and charge their cars with. It was the funniest thing I ever saw, and carrying around a jug of gas kinda defeats the purpose of EV. But it shows just how much infrastructure would be needed for EV to be viable on a large scale. I do not think the park service in Yellowstone would build out huge parking lots with charging stations at each spot.

Now Toyota has discovered the EV is great in concept, but their success would be dependent upon power companies producing cheap power, distribution companies building out the grid, and local business like hotels providing charging stations for their clients, not to mention cities proving stations on street sides. It would be a massive investment on a lot of levels. The thing that makes the internal combustion engine so workable is the ability to have a centrally located gas stations that can serve thousands of people fast and efficiently with a fuel source. EV would go away from a central location to individual stations. Toyota knows the best approach is to be able to stick with a central location distribution system, where a hydrogen tank could be located next to gas and diesel. No need to reinvent the wheel, just refine it...don't forget Toyota started the hybrid thing with the Prius. If the EV was workable, Toyota would have already been on it.

The EV is great if you don't ever leave a radius of your house where you know 100% you could recharge every night. Hydrogen fuel cells make the most sense, no grid updates and the range is limited by the size of the tank. Plus it would be far cheaper to just add a hydrogen tank to a gas station than add charging stations everywhere. Musk is doing good things to further technology, but I don't see EV as the future of transportation.

Palm trees in Jackson?

 

[Snobdds]

Palm trees in Jackson? ��

The sight of a generator charging a car, yes.

I thought the sight of a picture of a Texas plate and the next of plam trees was pretty obvious it was poached off the web. Unless there are palm trees in Texas too?

The picture spoke of the situation, not exactly the situation. You got the point.

 

[toppop52]

I’m in favor of any technology that benefits the average person. So I’m going to ask a few questions without malice of forethought, just hoping to find out.
Where do we stand in carbon footprint for producing, charging and maintaining electric cars, solar panels, wind energy, wave energy, etc... I mean from the cost to find and recover the natural resources, transportation, manufacture, sales, government subsidies paid for by the taxpayers, installation of support systems such as recharge stations, etc... Hiw much pollution is generated in the lifetime of an electric vehicle vs gasoline, same for KW produced by solar vs natural gas?

 

[Citydude]

The sight of a generator charging a car, yes.

I thought the sight of a picture of a Texas plate and the next of plam trees was pretty obvious it was poached off the web. Unless there are palm trees in Texas too?

The picture spoke of the situation, not exactly the situation. You got the point.

Oh. I was joking. You get the point?

 

[Snobdds]

Oh. I was joking. You get the point?

I was clarifying your point, if that was your point?