2022 work master 75 pto too fast shutting down ???

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I have a friend who had two 75 horse NH's- not sure which model, just the hp. The first had serious leaks, and NH bought it back. The second one had overheating issues that they couldn't resolve, so they also bought that one back. I was surprised to hear how quickly they resolved things- NH must know that they have serious issues. It definitely isn't common for a manufacturer to buy a tractor back, much less two.
He bought a Kubota M7060, and hasn't looked back.
 
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RADIUM - your current position is not of your making. Make the trade and enjoy the good life. I'm retired and wonder if I could - hold it down - like you have done. Look forward - better days are coming.

The very best to you.
 
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Yes it's kind of funny they're actually talking about taking this tractor back now that they cannot resolve the electrical problem. They've dispatched a specialist to the dealer who has no clue of what's going on recommendation replace the wire harness as I stated no thank you I told him send it back to a factory and disassemble it then they're actually willing to give me a third tractor. I might give it a go they have a 2023 75 I would just have to move my lights over to it LOL I'm seriously thinking about it it really is the perfect size tractor the Massey Ferguson is kind of heavy and way Overkill cannot find a 75 horsepower Massey Ferguson anywhere in the area and I don't want to go with a John Deere Brothers had so many issues they're not the same tractor anymore either really sad
 
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By the way they stated they would also take care of the PTO issue by turning down their pressure on the relief valve basically allowing it to spin if I wanted to keep the tractor so they can solve this problem it's all Bs it's simply a safety measure that's way overdone
 
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Well good news they got the tractor running did not need a wire harness just an update again from New Holland on computer software and a second dashboard that seems to be working PTO is now registering and working. The tractor seems to be running fine other than of course the ridiculous PTO condition which still hasn't been resolved whether they want to do it or they just will not do it don't really know anyway gives me some more time to think of what to do good to know that it wasn't something overly serious like a rewiring job just thought I'd let you know thanks for all the replies take care
 
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Simple answer I posted a while ago... 6 spine female to 6 spine male over running coupler. You can get one on Amazon or Flea Bay for about 50 bucks. I carry one in each of the tractor's tool boxes. Saves the weak Kubota pto clutch brake.

Kubota's are notorious for clutch brake failure and replacement requires a split.
 
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Okay for the last time I'll try to explain this it must be my fault. Does your tractor jump off the ground or sound like the Driveline is going to snap in half because it goes instant on?? That's the problem more than just shutting it off please try to understand your overrun clutch is not going to allow a slow ramp up of power is that enough to understand what I'm complaining about even the rep looked at it he could not understand why this was occurring. Even at the lowest RPM with the tractor idling if you engage the 8 ft bush hog dual spindle the tractor will either stall or you'll have an instant shaking like something's going to snap never mind with the snow blower does it's even worse 9 ft snowblower. There's no slow ramp up of power it's on or off it's ridiculous so you have to turn the RPMs up a little bit and at that point you're risking snapping a Driveline or a sheer bolt luckily the slip drive on the bush hog gives not so good on the snowblower you got to carry a lot of extra sheer bolts with you from just engaging the machine LOL they're looking into. By the way there's two workmasters on the Dealer's lot that do it even worse I just don't understand what they were thinking with the design like this and I was told they can bypass the pressure and allow it to go on slow it's simply a safety feature that's way overdone someone must have chopped their leg off on a workmaster ridiculous take care
 
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I hope this all works out for you. It seems that you've been very patient and that goes for the dealership as well. Move on and don't look back.
If the MF is heavier than you'd like there are plenty of other colors to pick from and now you are aware of some of these new (in terms of safety) details that us older users would never have dreamed up as necessary.
Common sense apparently is a thing of the past. Next they'll have automatic breaking and collision avoidance but lots of cupholders and a huge "screen" and hot spot capabilities. 🤪
 
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Okay for the last time I'll try to explain this it must be my fault. Does your tractor jump off the ground or sound like the Driveline is going to snap in half because it goes instant on?? That's the problem more than just shutting it off please try to understand your overrun clutch is not going to allow a slow ramp up of power is that enough to understand what I'm complaining about even the rep looked at it he could not understand why this was occurring. Even at the lowest RPM with the tractor idling if you engage the 8 ft bush hog dual spindle the tractor will either stall or you'll have an instant shaking like something's going to snap never mind with the snow blower does it's even worse 9 ft snowblower. There's no slow ramp up of power it's on or off it's ridiculous so you have to turn the RPMs up a little bit and at that point you're risking snapping a Driveline or a sheer bolt luckily the slip drive on the bush hog gives not so good on the snowblower you got to carry a lot of extra sheer bolts with you from just engaging the machine LOL they're looking into. By the way there's two workmasters on the Dealer's lot that do it even worse I just don't understand what they were thinking with the design like this and I was told they can bypass the pressure and allow it to go on slow it's simply a safety feature that's way overdone someone must have chopped their leg off on a workmaster ridiculous take care
They probably did that to mitigate pto brake clutch failure and far as an abrupt start of any implement, the addition of an adjustable multi plate slip clutch in the driveline will eliminate that issue entirely.

Most of my quality implements including my disc mower (which happens to be a New Holland) as well as my new Kubota BV round bailer have them factory installed and so does my new pto driven stump grinder.

My Land pride 9 foot brush hog didn't come with one and neither did my 15 foot bat wing fold up shredder but, I added them anyway.

A slip clutch in the driveline as well as an over running coupler will totally eliminate and and all driveline shock when starting up any implement or stopping them when any implement will drive the disengaged pto stub. The pto will come to an immediate stop and not rotate at all and that totally eliminates pto brake wear, which is something I needed to do with my large frame Kubota's as the Kubota pto brakes are marginal at best and replacement requires splitting the tractors, which is a very involved process and if done by a dealer will be extremely expensive.

Tractor Supply sells them, I believe the Weasler brand but they can be had cheaper on line. Never replaced a shear bolt on any implement I own other than my own stupidity like sucking up a paving brick in my snowblower and locking the impeller.

My final comment is, quit whining and take care of the issue. I've laid out the plan in detail as to what to do. Up to you to remedy the issue. if you cannot do it yourself, have your dealer install a slip clutch. Far as the over running clutch on the pto stub, that is totally plug and play.

Do keep in mind that you will probably have to shorten the sliding halves on the driveline to compensate for the additional length of the slip clutch as well as the over running coupler and I presume you know how to do that. If not, have the dealer do that as well. he knows the procedure.

Have a nice day, I'm done here....
 
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Well once again thank you for all the opinions you're telling me to put a slip clutch in between a snow blower that would go well LOL have a nice day no reason to get into these arguments it seems to be great every time I come on this support site I'm simply telling you and even the rep from New Holland is agreeing with me it's a very bad design and needs to be adjusted or fixed somehow put it back the way the old tractors used to work turn it on Let It ramp up slow and let it spin till it comes to a stop don't get out of the tractor and put your foot underneath the bush for god sakes have some common sense when you're operating 8,000 lb 60 hp pto equipment take care
 
 
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