Constantly flat front tire.

   / Constantly flat front tire. #11  
To fix my leaks around the bead I've used a wire brush with my drill on the rim and a type of abrasive wheel on the tire it's self to clean it off. I've damaged my tire and rim as you have but it still holds pressure for weeks.
 
   / Constantly flat front tire. #12  
I like using slime. I've got a front tire that I've put a few holes in it and slime works great. Yes it does require replacing after about 4 years but the stuff is water soluable and washes out easily. It's cheap and and easy to use and will continue to seal after application. A tube works also but a thorn can puncture a tube also. Other sealants can harden and lose effectiveness.

Good luck.
 
   / Constantly flat front tire. #13  
Well Doc,.... even just once running a flat off the rim is bad. (UNnoticed means you really beat up the bead!) But you say you've run it off the rim "several" times, (I think you said?) OH-OH Geeeze !!! Really bad!

I hate to tell you this but no matter what numerous and various methods you use to keep that tire going,..(and they pretty well "all" work for a while) BUT,..you'll likely get tired of "forever" noticeing it is down some, and finally want to take care of it.

Especially using the loader. I did the same for a while and had to constantly make a sharp right to take a look "on-the-move" and at night I carried a flashlight so I could check "on-the-go". I carry one of those small portable air compressors under the seat. You know, the kind you carry in the car and it plugs into the cigar lighter, (which my JD-3520-Cab) has. Yes they're real slow but can get you out of a tight spot or just back to the barn.

Running a tire off the rim (more than once) really stretches and destroys the bead. It is now so weak and messed up that, even putting a tube in, you will have to keep a close eye on it, especially under load, (heavy bucket) as the pressure can now actually "ease the bead" out over the rim edge.

I admit I tried it all too,....many times, different tractors and tires etc and eventually just get fed up,..(especially when your tired and beat-up and just want to get that last load moved,.....and ahhhH SHeee-it,....that #@$%& tire is gone again and I'm toooooo beat to take care of it tonight!!!

So first thing next mornin' I'll bite the bullet and get me a brand new one! OH what a relief to not worry about "that" freek'n problem for a while!!!

CHEERS,...and good luck to you!
. . tug

PS: I don't really think you'd like the foam, ..but I see there is some new product that is supposed to be much better, less expensive and not as damaging. Check around for it, sorry I can't help more than that at the moment.
 
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   / Constantly flat front tire.
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I'm sure hoping not to have to replace them. Like I say, as long as it is at proper pressure it does fine, even with a full bucket. The first time I ran it off the rim was turning, on a hill, bucket with one huge rock in it, me not paying attention to anything but the hill, made a hard turn and off it came. Similar experience the second time, full bucket, no hill, but deep sand. So maybe with the tube keeping it at proper pressure (not leaking) I can get some more use out of it. Won't cost that much to give it a try anyway.

They only have about 200 hours on them, and they still have lots of tread left but they are much more worn than the rears, which is common on 4wd fronts. So if I do have to replace them, I'll probably spend some money and get higher ply and stiffer sidewall R1s.

Hope the tubes work.
 
   / Constantly flat front tire. #15  
I tried Slime. It helped, but it's pretty limited in what it can do. Once you use Slime, you cannot use a patch anymore. I've been relying on tubes, but they also have their limits. I've been dealing with flat front tires for years on both my CUT and backhoe. After four flats this year on my backhoe, I had enough. The last flat was on a Sunday morning and nobody was open to fix it. The entire day was shot for what I wanted to do.

I had asked about foaming the front tires of the CUT. They said it would be about $300 to do them and that when I wore out the tread on the tire, it was easy to scrape the rim to mount a new tire. I didn't ask if I had to foam the replacement tire or not.

I had both front tires of the backhoe foamed for $500. It took about a week. There are no more valve stems, just bolts in the hole. The tires are HEAVY !!!! I have no idea what they weigh now, but before I had them foamed, I could lift one up and into the back of my truck by myself. Now I can't get them off the ground. They are also solid. I mean, they feal like concrete.

I was worried about the ride, but so far, can't tell the difference while driving around with them.

I will never have another flat, so that's all that I really care about. $500 well spent. Especialy considering that it was almost $30 to fix each flat and at least a day lost of doing anything with the tractor, which is where the real expense was.

Eddie
 
   / Constantly flat front tire. #17  
Can you tube after slime?

If You choose to tube it ,Just wash the slime out of the tire. water breaks it down, Its nothing like those inflate A flat products Not as messy or Flammable like those . I love the stuff . Bob
 
   / Constantly flat front tire.
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Eddie, you say 'bolts in the hole', do you mean they put a nut and bolt in the valve stem hole or did they put a thread in the valve stem hole? What I'm getting at is, do you think the valve stem hole is ruined for future use for valve stems?

I'm also concerned with your description of how hard the foamed tires are. Seems like hard fronts would not only make for a rougher ride, but more importantly it seems like they'd be hard on the front driveline components, especially bearings and such.
 
   / Constantly flat front tire. #20  
George,

Yes, it looks like a bolt head in the valve stem hole. Since this is the first time that I've done this, and my only experience with it, I can't say what it would take to remove the tire and put on a new one. Since my tires are for commercial use and have a ten ply rating, I would have thought that would work. But taking out trees in the woods is just more then they can handle. I never take it out on the pavement, so wear on the tread should be minimal. I don't foresee replacing the tires, but if it happens, I'll foam them again.

As for the ride, all I can say is that I haven't noticed a difference. I keep them at 35psi, so the ride with an empty bucket seems the same. One thing that I haven't done yet, but I'm curious about, is what it will be like with a heavy load in the bucket. At 4,000 pounds of lift on my loader, I can put allot of weight on my front tires. I've seen them flatten out pretty good under a big load, like a stump. I'm hoping that with the foam, it won't affect the shape of the tire.

As for being able to patch a tire with Slime, that may be true, but getting a repair shop to do it for you is another matter. I've been to several shops and have been told the same thing, you can't patch a tire that has had slime in it. The only way to fix a flat after you have put Slime in it is to put a tube into the tire. Of course, when the Tube gets a flat, you can patch the tube if it's repairable. I've been about 50/50 on getting tubes patched. Sometimes I can, other times I have to buy a new tube.

Eddie
 
 
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