Deerherd, Setting out side is fine for the tractor but I hate packing and stacking round bales by hand. Just got back from the barn and forgot to measure.. Oh well something else to do in the morning. And last but not least does everybody that has a cab have the air blow cold? I talked to a "neighbor" that I thought had a Montana ( It is the LS 7010 3 years old) and he told me that on a hot day like today the air would just barely be cool below the point of being uncomfortable. The one I looked at the dealer was mostly idling and it was not cold so I thought if working it would be cooler but he said it did not effect his. Dealer in Georgia said it should fog the windows. Whats up Doc? Oh and the Georgia dealer said it was made by LG and I can't standdss LG cra uh stuff but thinking have to get over it in this case cause I will probably be getting it tomorrow. If they will deliver and throw in a spike for the front!