JDIOWA
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This thread started with a Kubota owner asking why anyone would spend more for a new X series. In reply, other Kubota owners and owners of other model JDs have discussed the debate of $$$ for quality. There were several posts on this thread that have been deleted because they might have been viewed by Muhammed as attempts to incite agrguments, but one of them linked to no less than six very recent posts on chronic issues with the BX; the 3PH issue is still active and Kubota appears to still have problems with the toplink. They redesigned the toplink but it didn't change the basic geometry. Furthermore, Kubota doesn't seem to be proactive about a dangerous steering condition--this sounds like a recall level problem. They have issued a service bulletin just like JD did with the front axle/scuffing front tires on 4200s, which is far less dangerous and not related to the models that are topics of this discussion. There is also a long thread on BX Quality decline which appears to have gotten some good discussion about issues with the BX.
DGM, you post anonymously to try to shore up some self-deluded notion that Kubotas are perfect and they are not. Neither are JDs. I've seen that "I have a JD and I'm done with them..." post a hundred times, always anonymous. It would be similarly uninformed and inflamatory for me to say you are wrong about JD having more problems(how would I substantiate that? Count posts? Hardly scientific or arguable) --that would be an unfounded statement, just like yours.
There are never any facts presented in these types of arguments and the glaring issues to me are the thought behind the original post and the fact that there is not a single post describing satisfaction, dissatisfaction, or glowing praises of higher quality with the X series. There are not enough out there yet to make any well-founded statements about whether there are problems or how it performs compared to the BX line.
For what it's worth, there is JD mechanic on another tractor board discussing any issues with the Xseries as he preps new units arriving. Apparently there is an issue with the height adjustment control for the mower decks (it doesn't lock effectively and will slip out of its setting unless the dealer performs a minor fix. Delaers are now doing this as part of prep) and the mower decks are being referred to a "noisy." After a couple of months there are no major issues being reported.
Some of you guys make it sound as if JD doesn't fix problems or redisign engineering flubs as they they are discovered. There isn't a single tractor manufacturer or car manufacturer who hasn't made a mistake in that area. I'm also reading about one miscreant JD dealer in Missouri and we'll see if our fellow TBN'er recieves some satisfaction for that problem.
Quite frankly, I could care less whether the tractor has its origins in a compact, or in a garden tractor. If one does the same job as the other, and it has either a cost or quality advantage (whichever I seek), that's the one for me.
Let's just let the X series evolve before we praise or impune it.
Cornfed Boy
DGM, you post anonymously to try to shore up some self-deluded notion that Kubotas are perfect and they are not. Neither are JDs. I've seen that "I have a JD and I'm done with them..." post a hundred times, always anonymous. It would be similarly uninformed and inflamatory for me to say you are wrong about JD having more problems(how would I substantiate that? Count posts? Hardly scientific or arguable) --that would be an unfounded statement, just like yours.
There are never any facts presented in these types of arguments and the glaring issues to me are the thought behind the original post and the fact that there is not a single post describing satisfaction, dissatisfaction, or glowing praises of higher quality with the X series. There are not enough out there yet to make any well-founded statements about whether there are problems or how it performs compared to the BX line.
For what it's worth, there is JD mechanic on another tractor board discussing any issues with the Xseries as he preps new units arriving. Apparently there is an issue with the height adjustment control for the mower decks (it doesn't lock effectively and will slip out of its setting unless the dealer performs a minor fix. Delaers are now doing this as part of prep) and the mower decks are being referred to a "noisy." After a couple of months there are no major issues being reported.
Some of you guys make it sound as if JD doesn't fix problems or redisign engineering flubs as they they are discovered. There isn't a single tractor manufacturer or car manufacturer who hasn't made a mistake in that area. I'm also reading about one miscreant JD dealer in Missouri and we'll see if our fellow TBN'er recieves some satisfaction for that problem.
Quite frankly, I could care less whether the tractor has its origins in a compact, or in a garden tractor. If one does the same job as the other, and it has either a cost or quality advantage (whichever I seek), that's the one for me.
Let's just let the X series evolve before we praise or impune it.
Cornfed Boy