John Deere vs Kubota

[RedDog]

<font color="blue"> but JD really put it all together with the Twenty's. Just wish they weren't all turbos </font>

I just don't understand why some do not want turbo's on a diesel engine. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

RedDog

 

[IslandTractor]

I don't think modern turbo diesels are any less reliable than the normally aspirated ones. I have the same itchy feeling about turbo being a smidgen too high techy on a tractor but the track record on turbos is excellent these days. And, it means a smaller block, pistons etc, less friction and probably better fuel economy. Dang, I might have just talked myself into one. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif. Oh, I forgot, the price tag. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

 

[CT_Tree_Guy]

Yeah, I had to read my last post over a few times to make sure it was really me typing it. I was SO KEEN on getting a turbo on my (first ever) tractor. I was looking at a 5320 at the time - HAD to have a turbo. "A diesel without a turbo isn't finished being built!!" was my rallying cry.

Now, I look at it much differently. As I've said in other posts, if I really needed to squeeze everything I could out of the engine, and/or was plowing all day right in the sweet spot, definitely turbo me please, and super-size it. But for what I do, I'm just as happy not to have to concern myself with cooling it down, or wondering when it's gonna crap out and leave me stranded, or start laying down a nice smoke screen like a WWII destroyer escort. Been there, done that, got the receipt.

All that said - turbos are what they are. A good, relatively cheap, common-sense, nearly free lunch for added power, and a diesel engine is practically screaming for one. But all of that pales in comparison to the main reason for getting one - they SOUND COOL! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Here's to looking at things from all sides, hearing and respecting where the other guy is coming from, and forgiving each other for being so utterly wrong all the time. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Peace in our time, John

 

[linpat]

have u looked at any other tractors or r u sold on JD & BOTA?

 

[CT_Tree_Guy]

<font color="blue"> have u looked at any other tractors or r u sold on JD & BOTA? </font>

There are other tractors besides JD and Kubota??????????? /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[JerryG]

On the subject of turbos. My last two tractors were the same size with the same size engine. My latest one, my MF 1440 has a turbo. When I am brush hogging and drop off the side of a hill and then start out the turbo will spool and it will just go ahead and pull out. With the non-turbo tractor that I had before, when I was pulling out of the same place, I would have to drop two gears. There is a lot less shifting and I am sure if a turbo was on a hydro tractor, there would be a lot less lifting of the hydro pedal.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( There is a lot less shifting and I am sure if a turbo was on a hydro tractor, there would be a lot less lifting of the hydro pedal.
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That is providing that the tranny does not go into relief. For that to be true they would need to be using larger transmissions for the higher HP models. For a gear/shuttle/GST your right on.

 

[daTeacha]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( ... But all of that pales in comparison to the main reason for getting one - they SOUND COOL! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif ... )</font>

OH YEAH! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I'm driving my 3rd turbo car, but none of them sound quite as great as the first one -- an 85 Saab 900 with some, um, modifications to the boost pressure regulator. When you spooled that thing up, you would get this great whistling sound and simply disappear from where you used to be. I didn't do the mods to it, but it would build enough pressure under heavy throttle that I had to wire various plugs into the plenum to keep them from blowing out.

I love that sound! I used to drive the Ohio 'pike pretty regularly and would try to be alongside a turbocharged semi when approaching a long grade just to listen to the turbo's sing on those big diesels.

Thanks for the memories. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[JasonMac]

I am a Deer Brand Guy. However Kubota makes a nice machine too. But the one thing that kills me about Kubota is the location of the independant brakes.

I know some will say they don't use the turn brakes. But you would if you got experienced with the tractor, and you would if they were on the correct side of the machine.

I use mine a lot, especially when I'm scraping snow off pavement and my front wheels are above ground.

Why does Kubota do this? Why do they even bother with turn brakes if you can't use them? Because you can't use them, period, unless you have cruise set. Well that is a no brainer, you shouldn't have to set your cruise to use your independant brakes. I don't know too many people born with two legs on their right side of their bodies.

Kubota makes a nice machine, but god, fix the brake location, also it's easier to use your toes for direction than to use your heel like on that treddle pedal thing they have. It's nice to have a clear uncluttered floor like JD Hydro's.

That would be the deal breaker for me.. I don't like the foot pedals. TREDDLE + TURN BRAKES ON WRONG SIDE = NOPE NOT FOR ME PLEASE! If Kubota fixed this ergonomic issue, I would have considered buying one....

 

[IslandTractor]

Regarding turn brakes: unless you are plowing, what use is there for them? Aren't they a throwback to the days of tricycle tractors etc? Don't most folks plow with 4wd and have sufficient weight on the front to keep the tires in contact with the road?