Gear drive vs hydro

[Egon]

Heck, why not use a Danierls senior orfice meter. That way you can change the orfice while the equipoment is operating.

 

[Reg]

I had an opportunity to see a gear tractor in operation today. {snip}

It is like welding to a degree. If an AC only buzz box does all you need and you don't want or need better then be happy don't worry keep your buzz box and let others go MIG, TIG, flux core, or...

Pat

From what you wrote my guess is that what you in fact saw was a heavy handed operator, the tractor having a gear transmission was incidental.

By your own analogy a competent weldor can achieve much better penetration and generally better results using a stick "buzz box" than a klutz with a super duper mig rig and a push/pull gun.

IOW, it isn't ABOUT the equipment and in many cases feature encumbered gear inhibits learning & skill development.
Running MIG "just like a hot glue gun" sometimes produces a pretty wash weld, but a pretty weld without good penetration is harder to do with a stick.
("Playing" an i-pod can get a lot of music, but will never make someone a musician).

 

[jake98]

. If I were a gear tractor I might be losing rpm, but I wouldnt be wasting power pumping fluid into the sump thru a relief valve.]
larry[/QUOTE]

Right, you'd be doing it wearing out your clutch.
Jake

 

[WilliamBos]

. If I were a gear tractor I might be losing rpm, but I wouldnt be wasting power pumping fluid into the sump thru a relief valve.
larry

Right, you'd be doing it wearing out your clutch.
Jake

Yeah. I love post count builders, I mean threads like this.

 

[SPYDERLK]

If I were a gear tractor I might be losing rpm, but I wouldnt be wasting power pumping fluid into the sump thru a relief valve.]
larry

Right, you'd be doing it wearing out your clutch.
Jake

No, id shift to a lower gear if the bog became critical. Not too convenient, but much more so than changing a clutch.
larry

 

[SPYDERLK]

From what you wrote my guess is that what you in fact saw was a heavy handed operator, the tractor having a gear transmission was incidental.

I was thinking that too. No doubt in my mind tho that an HST would have eased the situation regardless of operator skill.
larry

 

[jake98]

Yeah. I love post count builders, I mean threads like this.

some of us are trying to make an occasional point here, will, while waiting for the next drinking game to start. when it's too early for that, it's kind of like 'king of the mountain'.

jake

 

[jake98]

I was thinking that too. No doubt in my mind tho that an HST would have eased the situation regardless of operator skill.
larry

and at least he could have gotten almost squished in a smoother motion..
(glad he didn't)

jake (the guy that was polking around a running snoblower yesterday) 'well it wasn't turning so i thought i'd give it a spin...'

 

[dirtworksequip]

I guess we will all buy what we think best suits our applications. The bad part is....... what we think is best for us also should be the best for everyone else. Both transmissions have their good points and bad. I know my choice and the reason for that choice,but my choice should have nothing to do with your choice. I would imagine that the gear vs hydro debate will go on again in the not so distant future. Albeit on a lesser intellectual scale than this time.

Sincerely, Dirt

 

[Reg]

I was thinking that too. No doubt in my mind tho that an HST would have eased the situation regardless of operator skill.
larry

Weren't most of the heavy handedness problems with the loader controls ?

I lack confidence working around OTHER PEOPLE on tractors anyway, but I think my self preservation instincts have a better chance if I see a tractor lurching towards me than one gently creeping up to squeeze me softly against a wall or push me gently over a ledge )-:
Again, this is about the operator not the tractor - but I would still prefer that the tractor NOT mask his/her incompetence.