Remote Hydraulics L3240

[brianidaho]

Does anyone have any pictures handy of the "factory" remote rear hydraulics? I'm wondering how the valve (I want 3 axis valving) mounts with the dealer installed package, and how the hoses route. My dealer wants an arm and a leg for these, Surplus Center has the 3 spool valve for a fraction of what Kubota wants for one. There must be something really special about the way they do it! I wouldn't mind this as a do-it-yourself project, but don't want to "red neck engineer" on a new tractor, especially if the factory setup is really cleanly done.

Thanks in advance.
Bri

 

[RickB]

I don't have photos, but if you want clean and neat, you want the factory valves. I wrench on New Holland tractors for a living, but have installed remotes on a couple of Kubota L series. The kits come with instructions that are easily understood, and the work is straightforward at least on tractors without cabs.

You just spent big bucks on a new ride, don't bastardize it by cheaping out on the accessory package. Buy the valves and completing kits, and get busy. Or grin and bear it and have the dealer do it.

 

[flusher]

Does anyone have any pictures handy of the "factory" remote rear hydraulics? I'm wondering how the valve (I want 3 axis valving) mounts with the dealer installed package, and how the hoses route. My dealer wants an arm and a leg for these, Surplus Center has the 3 spool valve for a fraction of what Kubota wants for one. There must be something really special about the way they do it! I wouldn't mind this as a do-it-yourself project, but don't want to "red neck engineer" on a new tractor, especially if the factory setup is really cleanly done.

Thanks in advance.
Bri

I don't own a Kubota since I traded my 2005 B7510HST last March for a Mahindra 5525.

Need a larger tractor for haying on my 10 acres.

Had the dealer install triple remotes on the 5525.

The triple valve is made by Dinoil. Surplus Center has equivalents. The input of the Dinoil is connected to the power beyond port on the FEL control valve. The output of the Dinoil goes to the tank.

Your 3240 doesn't have the nice flat-top fenders so you'll need to fabricate a compatible bracket for your triple valve.

 

[N80]

I've got rear emotes on my L4400 and for this model apparently only the factory kit will fit. At least that's what my research showed and is what I was told by several dealers.

In any case, it is very neat and very much out of the way...looks factory. I think it was around $650 bucks (installed) which is absolutely nuts, but I agree, if the only other option is going to look sloppy and potentially cumbersome, its probably worth getting the factory kit.

 

[brianidaho]

I've got rear emotes on my L4400 and for this model apparently only the factory kit will fit. At least that's what my research showed and is what I was told by several dealers.

In any case, it is very neat and very much out of the way...looks factory. I think it was around $650 bucks (installed) which is absolutely nuts, but I agree, if the only other option is going to look sloppy and potentially cumbersome, its probably worth getting the factory kit.

Was the $650 for the 3-spool kit? That's not bad if it makes for a clean setup. The verbal price I had from my dealer was $900 per axis!!! I'll have him check that. If it was $600-800 for the factory setup and it is a nice, clean package, that's not bad. I want to say the 3-spool valve from SC is $250 or so, by the time I do the fabrication, chase fittings down and buy hoses,it wouldn't be too far from that. I'd be happy to pay in that range...but not any $2700!

Flusher, a setup like yours is pretty much what I had in mind to fabricate. Are the supply and tank lines routed under the fender?

Thanks.
Bri

 

[Bill Barrett]

Does anyone have any pictures handy of the "factory" remote rear hydraulics? I'm wondering how the valve (I want 3 axis valving) mounts with the dealer installed package, and how the hoses route. My dealer wants an arm and a leg for these, Surplus Center has the 3 spool valve for a fraction of what Kubota wants for one. There must be something really special about the way they do it! I wouldn't mind this as a do-it-yourself project, but don't want to "red neck engineer" on a new tractor, especially if the factory setup is really cleanly done.

Thanks in advance.
Bri

Hope this helps!
Pics are at the end of thread.
Pics are big!!
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...96436-installing-rear-hydraulics-l3130-4.html

 

[Bill Barrett]

Bri,
That is the base unit, once you get that far, you just stack valves and outlets to the first valve and outlet. Hope that makes sense.

 

[flusher]

I don't own a Kubota since I traded my 2005 B7510HST last March for a Mahindra 5525.

Need a larger tractor for haying on my 10 acres.

Had the dealer install triple remotes on the 5525.

The triple valve is made by Dinoil. Surplus Center has equivalents. The input of the Dinoil is connected to the power beyond port on the FEL control valve. The output of the Dinoil goes to the tank.

Your 3240 doesn't have the nice flat-top fenders so you'll need to fabricate a compatible bracket for your triple valve.

BTW: price for this dealer-installed feature was $750.

 

[N80]

Was the $650 for the 3-spool kit?

The $650 was for only 1 set of rear remotes.

 

[flusher]

The $650 was for only 1 set of rear remotes.

That's the price quoted to me 3 years ago by the dealer who sold me my 2005 Kubota B7510HST. Thought it was pricey.

 

[canoetrpr]

Pretty sure the factory remotes for the L3240 are a pretty nice setup with hard lines that you really would have a hard time replicating with a valve from surplus center.

I've got a surplus center valve - Prince SV stack valve - for my L3400 - but the 'factory' remotes on the L3400 just look like any ol aftermarket valve so this didn't bother me much.

With a L3240, I'd be going for the factory setup. I can see the first spool costing $750 or so but the next set of spools should be much cheaper that that.

 

[brianidaho]

I went to the dealership yesterday,it wasn't quite as bad as I understood, 2 rear remotes for $1200 and change. Still a pretty bad violation, but the valves are proprietary, I would have a hard time duplicating as clean a setup. The extra per month is pretty minimal.

Thanks for all the input, I'm planning on pulling the trigger tomorrow.

Bri

 

[texbaylea]

Bri

Your dealer might be doing the same as my dealer tried when I bought my L3130. The first remote setup is around $600 but the 2nd and third are cheaper, around $400 each. I paid $1300 for the full set (3) of remotes installed with the make ready of my tractor. You should be able to get close to that price or a little more.

Vernon

 

[jwbrown]

Kubota makes it tuff to "redneck engineer" thier tractors. You just about have to use thier valves. I have a L4740 with two dealer installed remote valves. On my tractor, there is a plate on top of the lift cap that covers the remote valve pressure ports. To add the valves, this plate is removed and another plate (part 010 in the pdf file, which is part of the first valve kit) with the pressure lines is attached in it's place. These pressure lines bring the fluid to the remotes. Your first remote that you buy should be the most expensive one. The reason is because this mounting plate that I mentioned, the inlet, and the outlet is included. With the 2nd and 3rd valves, you do not need addtional plates, inlets and outlets, therfore they should be cheaper. The valves just stack beside each other. I would say that you should be able to get all three for around $1000.00

The only other option that you have is to find a place to insert what is called a "Power Beyond". However, you will need to tap into the pressure line somewhere and tap into the return line somewhere. If you decide to do this and not go with the factory valves, I suggest that you go with Prince stack valves. The reason is becasue if you ever want to add more valves, all you have to do is buy the valve section and another bolt kit to bolt them together. For example, if you want two valves now, you would buy a inlet, two valves, an outlet, a two valve bolt valve kit, the hoses, and quick couplings. However, if you want to add a third one, all you do is remove the bolts, add another valve, and a three valve bolt kit. I think you can add up to 10 valves together, and the prince valves are easially avaliable. The stack valves that Kubota uses are not made by Kubota, but I cannot figure out who made the ones on my tractor.

I attached a PDF file with the parts breakdown of the valves for my tractor. I hope this helps.

 

[brianidaho]

I see what you mean with regard to the factory remotes, they are a very nice, clean installation. Having said that I don't find the location of the valve handles all that handy. My old tractor had solenoids for control of the tilt and 3-pt, I mounted rocker switches in a small NEMA-rated enclosure on the fender, right where my hand would tend to sit when operating the tractor. I actually found that nicer than what Kubota has, the handles are too low and far back to be real convenient. I may get used to what's here, but I'm also thinking of using the power beyond port and tapping in a bank of solenoids, I'm going to want extra axes anyway. I need to study things out better, it hasn't been much over 10F all week, so looking into the finer details of hydraulic systems hasn't been real appealing.

Thanks for all the input.

Brian