Rear Finish Mower Finish Mower: side discharge vs. rear discharge

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Gary_in_Indiana

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I'm looking at buying a 6' finish mower for my John Deere 4200 MFWD. I've seen the side and rear discharge models offered by Woods and Frontier (green Woods) that are within $50 in price for side vs. rear so that's not going to be the determining factor. What are the inherent advantages and disadvantages to side discharge and rear discharge systems? Why would/should I want one over the other?
 
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Gary,

From what I've seen in other threads that discussed this topic, the main difference seems to be that the rear discharge allows you to mow alongside any object in either direction, whereas with the side discharge you can't mow along the side that discharge chute is located. Also, the rear discharge apparently has less clumping and/or wind rowing than the side discharge.

If I were going to be buying a mower, I think I would go with the rear discharge. It seems more versatile. I can't speak from experience, since I don't have a tractor YET! But I sure can pass on information that I've learned! /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
 
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Get the rear discharge. You'll be glad you did.

Eugene
 
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Gary,
I have a rear discharge. I love it versus the side discharge on my old Craftsman rider. The side discharge left clumps or rows of grass, whereas the rear discharge spreads it out a little more even to the rear. And like Golfgar mentioned, you are limited in closeness on the side that the discharge is on.
 
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I'm in the same process right now Gary and have tryed out both. I liked the rear discharge better for all the reasons mentioned. My favorite mower was a zero turn landpride accu-z they brought out. But I really didn't want to fork over $8k for it!!!! I think it'll just be a finish mower on the 4600.
 
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I like side discharge. Just bought a new one this Spring for the new tractor. Had a MMM for an old Cub Loboy, RFM for a Fords 1210, and now a RFM for the Kubota. I much prefer rear-mount. The side-discharge lets me use the tractor to "rake" the leaves in the Fall. I mow with the guard up, and can trim around the tetherball pole. With the RFM, you can swerve and run the deck under low-hanging pines and shrubs. Everyone likes different stuff for their own reasons.............chim
 
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chim,
May I ask why you like side vs rear discharge?
 
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The main reason is being able to use it as a rake. In the Fall, it is a heck of a lot easier to "mow backwards", blowing the leaves from the center of the property to the fencerow, creek (hope DEP isn't tuned in), and the cornfields.

Sometimes in the Summer either my schedule or poor planning causes me to mow the grass when it's much too long. I'll let the fresh-cut grass lay and dry for a day or so, then use the mower to blow the dried clippings into long rows that are raked up in a matter of a few minutes.

My only personal experience with a rear-discharge deck has been with my Mom-in-law's John Deere (forgot the model number) mower. It's one of those with a 5' front deck and rear-mounted motor. It has always left little windrows of cut grass between the blades whether the blades were sharp, dull, or whatever. It never left her lawn looking good.............chim
 
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I used a JD272 side discharge for several years. got a Landpride FDR-84 rear discharge last year. If you want to manage the clippings (pick up, etc), the windrow from the side discharge is handy. Otherwise, I really prefer the r-d. It spreads the clippings enough that they don't clump and suffocate the grass.
You can mow in any pattern, whereas with the s-d, you generally have to mow counterclockwise from outside-in, due to the exit chute being on the right. This is to throw the clippings over the previously cut areas. If you throw the clippings onto uncut grass, the mower will get really clogged and does a poor cutting job (if grass is wet, fuggetaboutit). And eventually you'll create some monster piles.
The r-d is simply more flexible to use.
One point about machine dimensions - a s-d's chute adds several inches to the width, whereas a r-d is only 2-3" wider than the cutting width, so if you store in a narrow space (barn, etc), you need to factor in that.
On the other hand, my r-d LP's deck is longer, which requires more room in the shed to store.
Before you buy, scrutinize the way the deck floats on the wheels. Any unit will cut decently on flat tabletops, but for uneven ground, several have wheel positions that cause the deck to scuff the surface, digging up, gouging the grass. Absolutely need the optional roller in the front too.
Hope some of this helps. jim
 
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Read with pleasure some really good advice from various sources. Nothing like some hands-on-use..!
I have designed, worked with and reviewed many mowers in all types of grass and terrain.
The market is very much going to Rear Discharge. Size is a factor every time you mow: more and more 84" units are used, all with rollers in front. Floatation is also VERY important. So is easy cleaning and paint quality. Of the 30-something brands offered, only a few offer POWDER paint.
Then there is the value. What initial cost and what are the REAL prices of the replacement parts such as blades, belts, tires and even a PTO. Remember the Woods dealer who wanted I believe $100 for a relacement wheel..ouch !
Ask your dealer to check into First Choice. Or contact them yourself. Without doubt the fastest growing brand in the industry. And for good reasons.
You will likely save some $500 over the well known shortliners such as Woods, LP & Bush Hog. You can even get them in YOUR colour.

Above all enjoy your new mower !


PS Send us some water here in E-NC.
 
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I have a few hours on a 72" First Choice rear discharge, and I love it. It scatters the grass so well that I really don't notice it.
Ken
 
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pieterv:

Glad to see you finally made it to TractorByNet. Its a great way to find out what those of us ( the masses ) need, want and are using in todays compact tractor market. As well as viewing some really unique home built project that, might easily become the next big selling useful implement to become part of our collections. Good luck in your ventures.
 
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I used to have a King Kutter side discharge finish mower and it worked pretty well but I got tired of the hitch arrangement and bought a Landpride rear discharge mower. The KK is fine for regular mowing but if the grass get really long, the rear discharge chops the clippings up and doesn't bog down. This has been good this spring as wet as it's been. I think the high blade tip speed on the Landpride really helps too.
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The RFM I've been borrowing from the dealer has s-d. I mow with the chute up and it bogs down a little less, but I don't like having to pay attention which way I'm throwing the grass. Especially when I get close to my one neighbors house. Due to trees, a marshy spot, my lawn not being a perfect rectangle and other things, my mowing pattern is kind of haphazard, but I must be doing something right because I've knocked my mowing time down from 5 1/2 hours the first time to 2 1/2 hours by the fifth time. There are times though, when I find myself going the "wrong" way and have to make a conscience effort to throw the clippings away from the uncut grass. Can't wait for my rear discharge to come in.

Fred
 
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Using a rear discharge would allow for a lawn sweeper to be towed while mowing while side discharge won't.
 
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What does the front roller do? Why is it better or important? thanks, bw
 
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The rear discharge will cut taller/heavy, damp or wet grass easier, and use less HP doing it. The reason is because the rear discharge gets rid of the grass fast, instead of haveing to move most of it all the way across the deck to throw it out!
If it was my $$, i'd be getting a Woods read discharge mower!
Robert
 
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Thanks to everyone for their input and advice./w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif I think I'm going to go with the majority here and pursue getting a rear discharge model. I'd better do it soon, too. Right now my grass is long enough to hide large dogs and small children./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
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Consider to set your new mower to mow part of the top first ( about halfd of what you need to mow ) and then to lower the deck for a second cut. Seems to get you the best results.

Enjoy !
 
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Let us know what you get and how you like it. I'm in the market for the best finish mower for the money, thanks, brett w
 
 

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