removing 4320 Deer from pond

[gemini5362]

So, what's the best way to deal with that tractor now that it's been burried in the drink for a while?

Well if it had been turned off and was just rolling and rolled in there drain all the fluids and replace them plus all the filters. I would probably take a hose and get the pond mud off of everything and should work good. Might want to drain all the fluids out, refill them with fresh fluids, then drain and put fresh fluids in a second time to be on the safe side.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

That's why all the guys hopped in the back.


Kyle

I know that is why they jumped in the back but if he turned the truck around he wouldn't have needed them guys and if he did have them in there they would have been even more useful weight. There was no reason in that situation to pull from the front hooks.

 

[Iplayfarmer]

Well if it had been turned off and was just rolling and rolled in there drain all the fluids and replace them plus all the filters. I would probably take a hose and get the pond mud off of everything and should work good. Might want to drain all the fluids out, refill them with fresh fluids, then drain and put fresh fluids in a second time to be on the safe side.

If a guy went with the two rounds of fluid option would he want to run the tractor at all in between changes of the fluids?

 

[gemini5362]

If it was me I would use the two fluid system as a rinse to get as much of all the contamination out as I could get. I would drain fluid, replace with new fluid, drain new fluid and then refill with fresh fluid and then run it. I would keep a check on the color of the new fluids and if they show any traces of water after you have run it again I would change a third time. Expensive fix but possibly cheaper in the long run. One of the guys I worked with forgot to untie his boat on the trailer and backed down a boat ramp. he kept backing and the boat never floated off the trailer. He finally got out to see what was wrong and noticed the boat still secured by the winch. He released the winch and he said one moment he was standing on the trailer and the next he was swimming and his truck was under water. When he released the winch the boat had been holding the back of the truck out of the water and when it went down the back wheels were already in the mud and it slid down the ramp into deeper water. He said the top of the cab was about 6 feet under water. He got a tow truck and pulled it out of the water. He let the cab dry out and did the procedure I recommended He had some issues for a while with corrosion in the dash wiring but all the running gear worked fine.

 

[Ryan03]

One thing that has not been mentioned would be the need to remove either all of the glowplugs or all of the injectors, and then crank the engine over repeatedly to get all of the water out of the cylinders. Even if the engine was not running, at least 2 cylinders would have had to have one valve off of its seat, allowing water to fill up the cylinder from the intake and or the exhaust. Also, in addition to a couple of fluid and filter changes and a good grease job, I would comepletly disassemble and clean the engine air intake system [ filter housing, intake ducting, intake manifold etc. ] with soap, hot water, and a brush. Once all that dirty pond water was dried out by the warm dry air of a running engine, it would certainly leave dust downstream of the air filter that could potentialy damage the pistons and rings as well as the cylinder walls. A couple of years ago I attended a technician class in Chicago for an Elgin street sweeper that our agency purchased, and one of the things that we learned from the Isuzu engine Rep who was on hand was that it takes as little as one half table spoon of abrasive dust all at once to destroy the piston rings and cylinder wall finish on an internal combustion engine.

 

[dmccarty]

.. There was no reason in that situation to pull from the front hooks.

How do you pull from the rear without a receiver?

Years ago when still I had the Chevy K2500 we had a bad snow storm. After a few days we needed groceries so I made a run to the store. On the way back I saw a Jeep Wrangler stuck in a flower bed/ditch at the front of a subdivision. I circled back and asked if he needed a pull. DUH.

The road he was on had a pretty good incline and the roads by this time where just a sheet of ice. I guess he was going too fast, hit the brakes and into the flower bed he slid. The Chevy did have a receiver but I figured I would try to pull him out with the front hooks. I gave him my tow strap told him to put it on a hook and then put it on his Jeep. He stood in FRONT of my truck which is on a road covered in an inch of ice going down hill while I inched the truck forward to put on the strap. H was not the brightest of bulbs.

Got the strap hooked up and I put the truck in reverse and pulled the Jeep out of the flower bed/ditch while pulling uphill on a sheet of ice. I really did not think that would happen. Figured I would have to pull forward for the traction to get him out but this was the easiest thing to do so we gave it a try. There was quite a bit of snow in the back of the truck so that weight might have helped.

Later,
Dan

 

[Robert_in_NY]

How do you pull from the rear without a receiver?

Years ago when still I had the Chevy K2500 we had a bad snow storm. After a few days we needed groceries so I made a run to the store. On the way back I saw a Jeep Wrangler stuck in a flower bed/ditch at the front of a subdivision. I circled back and asked if he needed a pull. DUH.

The road he was on had a pretty good incline and the roads by this time where just a sheet of ice. I guess he was going too fast, hit the brakes and into the flower bed he slid. The Chevy did have a receiver but I figured I would try to pull him out with the front hooks. I gave him my tow strap told him to put it on a hook and then put it on his Jeep. He stood in FRONT of my truck which is on a road covered in an inch of ice going down hill while I inched the truck forward to put on the strap. H was not the brightest of bulbs.

Got the strap hooked up and I put the truck in reverse and pulled the Jeep out of the flower bed/ditch while pulling uphill on a sheet of ice. I really did not think that would happen. Figured I would have to pull forward for the traction to get him out but this was the easiest thing to do so we gave it a try. There was quite a bit of snow in the back of the truck so that weight might have helped.

Later,
Dan

Back before I had trucks or anything with a tow hook or hitch I would pull from the frame. In fact I pulled my mailmans car out of the neighbors the other day by hooking to the frame of his lumina. I attached to my hitch but if I didn't have a hitch I would have pulled from the frame of the truck.

In the case of the Deere in the pond the hitch didn't matter as they had something hooked to both ends and if I recall there was a hitch on the back of the dodge. There was no reason to pull from the front in that situation.

 

[kmdigital]

If what your pulling in Reverse is light enough you wouldn't notice any issue with a 4wd truck. However, if it is stuck good or heavy you will not be happy pulling in reverse and when you turn the truck around you will be amazed at how easily the truck pulled it out. By pulling from the back it transfers a lot of weight to the back wheels making them more useful while still having the front wheels working with the weight of the engine and front end over it. Pulling in reverse lifts the weight off the rear wheels and puts it on the front effectively making your truck a front wheel drive truck as the back tires don't have much weight over them to help gain traction.

Tractors are similar but also have tires designed for pulling forward and they don't work as well pulling in reverse (this is why some combines with RWA have the rear wheels mounted "backwards", if they get into trouble the RWA pulls the correct way to back out of the trouble spot)

I pull from both directions all the time depending on what I need to pull and where I am pulling.

More importantly, with an automatic transmission it is very hard on and will heat it up a lot more then pulling in a forward gear. At least that's what I'm told by the tranny guys. I suppose it stands to reason as you have to reverse the direction of the drive shaft versus the input shaft, while going forward they rotate in the same direction.

 

[john_bud]

More importantly, with an automatic transmission it is very hard on and will heat it up a lot more then pulling in a forward gear. At least that's what I'm told by the tranny guys. I suppose it stands to reason as you have to reverse the direction of the drive shaft versus the input shaft, while going forward they rotate in the same direction.

That's one I don't agree with, at least not for that reason. Forward, you have more free air hitting the radiator. Backward, less air. may heat up more for that reason. BUT, you would have to be pulling for a LONG LONG time!

jb

 

[gemini5362]

I dont know about other diesels but my silverado duramax has a seperate temp gauge for the trainsmission so I can see if it heats up. I dont pull enough of a load to see any apreciable affect on the tranny. But then I bought my truck for the specific purpose of getting an Allyson transmission