In floor heating vs. radiant vs. forced air in shop??

[Gary Fowler]

Originally Posted by polo1665
A perk of having oil wells on the property is natural gas at the well head. The deal is, I get free gas (up to 200,000 cuic feet). If I use more than that I pay at well head rate. Don't ask me what that rate is, I hope I never find out.
To get in on it you would have to let someone drill an oil well on your property.

Mark

Nice!! That's a good deal for you. There are thousands of wells around here and I've never heard of a company 'sharing' with the landowners. That must really contribute to your leasehold income. Is there not any issues with it not being 'refined' through a gas plant first?? Obviously not since your doing it...... just wondering the details of it.

There is one potential safety issue with using well gas and that is it has no odor so you cant detect a leak with your nose. I suppose you could put in your on injection system to odorize it. Just make sure nothing is leaking or you could be in for a big boom.

 

[jgrreed]

.There is one potential safety issue with using well gas and that is it has no odor so you cant detect a leak with your nose. I suppose you could put in your on injection system to odorize it. Just make sure nothing is leaking or you could be in for a big boom.

That's a VERY good point. I'd be looking into an 'odorizer' first thing tomorrow!!!

I wonder who you call for a 'rotten egg smell injector'?? Actually,...... forget I asked, I see 2 of them right in front of me right now (see below)!!! The little girl on the right looks innocent, but trust me, she is S-T-I-N-K-I-E!!!!! There'd be no mistaking a leak, that's for sure!!! Sometimes (for instance, as I type this) I think I'd prefer the NG explosion!!!

-Jer.

 

[woodlandfarms]

We have boxers as well and they can clear a room in just a few seconds. From what I saw on Animal Planet the other night it is standard in the breed. The short face causes excess ingestion of air while eating.

 

[polo1665]

There is one potential safety issue with using well gas and that is it has no odor so you cant detect a leak with your nose. I suppose you could put in your on injection system to odorize it. Just make sure nothing is leaking or you could be in for a big boom.[/QUOTE]

As I stated the free gas deal is through the oil company that runs the wells. I surely wouldn't think that they would want the liability of providing me natural gas that has no additive to create an odor. Yes, this gas does have an odor. Although I am not sure, I would think that they are legally bound to odorize the gas if they are providing it to a home. If they are not legally bound, I guess it was just nice of them to do it

Mark

 

[jgrreed]

As I stated the free gas deal is through the oil company that runs the wells. I surely wouldn't think that they would want the liability of providing me natural gas that has no additive to create an odor. Yes, this gas does have an odor. Although I am not sure, I would think that they are legally bound to odorize the gas if they are providing it to a home. If they are not legally bound, I guess it was just nice of them to do it

Perfect, good to hear!!

-Jer.

 

[jgrreed]

We have boxers as well and they can clear a room in just a few seconds. From what I saw on Animal Planet the other night it is standard in the breed. The short face causes excess ingestion of air while eating.

That's great, I'll never have another breed!! They keep us entertained all day long and they're great with kids, just a bit rowdy at times.

I'd say BS on the air ingestion thing, only because ours were on raw food for a long time and weren't deadly-stinky at all. When we got Ella 8 months ago they were eating way too much raw to carry around when we travel (upwards of 8-10 lbs per day!!!) so we switched to dry food. Now they are absolutely rotten!!! Also, my in laws have a bulldog on dry food and he's not rotten at all, and his face is so short it's almost inverted!!! Reuben snores while he's awake!! Here's him below:

-Jer.

 

[patrick_g]

There is one potential safety issue with using well gas and that is it has no odor so you cant detect a leak with your nose. I suppose you could put in your on injection system to odorize it. Just make sure nothing is leaking or you could be in for a big boom.

As I stated the free gas deal is through the oil company that runs the wells. I surely wouldn't think that they would want the liability of providing me natural gas that has no additive to create an odor. Yes, this gas does have an odor. Although I am not sure, I would think that they are legally bound to odorize the gas if they are providing it to a home. If they are not legally bound, I guess it was just nice of them to do it

Mark[/QUOTE]

Maybe there is natural gas as provided by utility companies and then there is natural gas in its "primitive state" at the well head. Is gas right from the well head all that pure and odor free? I have little experience with pure gas wells but have been around mixed production where you got oil AND gas and the gas (used to run Budda stationary engines to pump the oil) directly from the wells was not odor free.

Pat

 

[Redneck in training]

Maybe there is natural gas as provided by utility companies and then there is natural gas in its "primitive state" at the well head. Is gas right from the well head all that pure and odor free? I have little experience with pure gas wells but have been around mixed production where you got oil AND gas and the gas (used to run Budda stationary engines to pump the oil) directly from the wells was not odor free.

Pat

The natural gas delivered to our houses is pure methane that has no odor, as opposed to raw gas at the well head that is mix of various hydrocarbons that has odor. If it smells naturally like rotten eggs it is also poisones because it contains sour gas (H2S). But I doubt that if it contained sour gas they would let owner of the property to use it.

 

[patrick_g]

The natural gas delivered to our houses is pure methane that has no odor, as opposed to raw gas at the well head that is mix of various hydrocarbons that has odor. If it smells naturally like rotten eggs it is also poisones because it contains sour gas (H2S). But I doubt that if it contained sour gas they would let owner of the property to use it.

Let us hope that either the well operator odorizes the gas supply, the user does it, or it has a significant and suitable smell as delivered because it would be way too dangerous to use it in an odorless state, not worth the price of FREE.

I never experienced pure methane right out of the ground. I have seen wells that flowed a clear liquid (nearly colorless but with a slight yellow tinge in large quantities) right out of the ground. This stuff had lots of lighter fractions dissolved in it and a 5 gal can of it in the sun would become 4 gal in a couple hours. It would vapor lock the devil out of your car unless "aged" and then may do so anyway on a hot day. Lower octane than commercial fuel at the pump, required retarding the spark a little and or mixing in a little leaded fuel.

Pat

 

[Egon]

It would vapor lock the devil out of your car unless "aged" and then may do so anyway on a hot day. Lower octane than commercial fuel at the pump, required retarding the spark a little and or mixing in a little leaded fuel.

And probably nasty things to the engine valves and seats also!