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   / water 4 gas anyone look in to this. #41  
Finally a nice logical explanation. Most of theses "Inventors" don't tell you that the electricity is not free. Some people think that just because the alternator is spinning it has all sorts of "Excess" energy. What it has is excess unused "capacity" but once you put a load on it the thing works at about 60% efficiency of the rotating energy that went into it. And that the car's engine that is spinning it is only about 33% efficient in turning fuel into work (the rest goes out as heat the the cooling system, friction and exhaust heat). So to get 1kw of electricity out of the alternator you need about 4kw worth of fuel.

I once got into a parallel discussion with a guy by telling him that on a front wheel drive car that the back wheels were just spinning so we should just hook up electric generators to them to make a hybrid. Heck, the energy is free right? They are just going around... let's harness that. He thought that it was a brilliant idea until I tried to explain to him that the motors would cause resistance/drag that the front wheels would need to overcome to pull the car against the extra load, but he didn't get it.

Maybe I just missed it and should have put a generator on top of the car, powered via a propeller. That would not put extra load on the wheels :) I think that I need to send this idea to the Red Green cable TV show. (if you have not seen the Red Green show, you are missing good humor and lots of project with duct tape!).

Yes, you can generate Hydrogen from water. But you need a lot of Hydrogen to run that engine, which takes a lot of electricity do the electrolysis to make the Hydrogen. Maybe if we put a nuclear power plant next to a lake and just lay the wires in the lake, with a funnel over the lake we can make the Hydrogen and get it for free!

The shock absorbers could be turned into generators. As the name suggests they absorb energy and disipate it as heat so instead of heat they can produce electricity. For example you could use your children bouncing on the back seat to improve your mileage.
 
   / water 4 gas anyone look in to this. #42  
Some people just like to believe this stuff.. free energy and all.. probably a corelation to what grade they made in physics or earth science while in public school... ;)

soundguy

The reason we know this isn't true and doesn't work is not one single after market company is trying to make billions of dollars selling it. The second something like this does in fact work, it will be all over the news and everybody will be selling it. This isn't some sort of secret that nobody knows about, and I'd guess that there are millions of dollars being spent every year trying to figure out how to invent something that will improve fuel economy by the manufacturers and the after market industry. The person or business the does come up with something that actually works will make a ridiculous amount of money.

It's like those diet pills and other things that are sold on TV that claim to do all sort of wonderful things. The second one comes out that actually does what they claim they will, you will know it because it will be all over the news. Remember Viagra? When it came out and was proven to work, the company made and is still making a ton of money over it.

Eddie
 
   / water 4 gas anyone look in to this. #43  
"A morsel of food dropped onto the floor is deemed edible if it is in contact with the floor for a period of less than three seconds (or five seconds in parts of Alabama)."

This one was disproved by MythBusters. (Both the 3-second Rule and 5-Second rule)
 
   / water 4 gas anyone look in to this. #44  
This one was disproved by MythBusters. (Both the 3-second Rule and 5-Second rule)
I think the Mythbusters are totally wrong on this one. My five year old used to prove that morsel dropped on floor is edible anytime you find it. She is 25 today and has no ill health effects.
 
   / water 4 gas anyone look in to this. #45  
Some people just like to believe this stuff.. free energy and all.. probably a corelation to what grade they made in physics or earth science while in public school... ;)

soundguy

Those are probably the same people who think that wrestling is real.
 
   / water 4 gas anyone look in to this. #47  
Perhaps I should just shut up for a while. Looks like I have too much of idle time while at work.
 
   / water 4 gas anyone look in to this. #48  
This is just a thought.

On the news for many years it has been discussed by scientists that all we need is to find Ice, or water on other planets to survive. In other words hydrogen can be extracted and used for heat, and fuel to drive engines.

If it is possible to support life on another planet why can't we use it here:confused:
 
   / water 4 gas anyone look in to this. #49  
I think the Mythbusters are totally wrong on this one. My five year old used to prove that morsel dropped on floor is edible anytime you find it. She is 25 today and has no ill health effects.

Well, all they really proved is that food that gets dropped on a dirty surface will pick up germs. Fortunately the human immune system is powerful enough to deal with all but the absolute worst germs.
 
   / water 4 gas anyone look in to this. #50  
This is just a thought.

On the news for many years it has been discussed by scientists that all we need is to find Ice, or water on other planets to survive. In other words hydrogen can be extracted and used for heat, and fuel to drive engines.

If it is possible to support life on another planet why can't we use it here:confused:

Great.. just great. Only we could take a frozen planet, take our cars there and eventually cause global warming......
 

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