Maple Syrup Time...

   / Maple Syrup Time... #21  
There are definitely sugar maples here. I've got some 10' logs waiting to be milled right now. Making sorghum is more common around here than making maple syrup. At least of the folks I'm aware of. I think once the liquid is harvested the two processes are nearly identical.
 
   / Maple Syrup Time... #22  
We're hitting the 'sugar shack' this weekend. Can't wait. The sap has really started to run here this week. We've got a lot of boiling to do. We're going to map syrup, maple butter, and maple candy.
 
   / Maple Syrup Time... #23  
Making sorghum is more common around here than making maple syrup.

Sure is a big difference in flavor of maple syrup and sorghum.:D I guess sorghum is just about the strongest flavored syrup you can get and I like it on biscuits, pancakes, or waffles, but my wife won't eat it.:rolleyes:
 
   / Maple Syrup Time... #24  
Sugaring is in full swing around here, not sure how the run is, but right now it is selling between $42 and $52 a gallon.
 
   / Maple Syrup Time... #25  
some one asked a few questions: I'll try & answer them.

40 : 1 boiling is about right, some trees will have sap content that is lower or higher but my trees are good about 35~38 gallons to make a good sweet batch that will last and not be over powering.

My pan is Large 42" x 46" x 8" with 3,-7" high dividers in it which I added just prior to sugaring last spring. I built this pan myself and used it 3 seasons as a flat pan (no Dividers)
the dividers act as a separation point and helps support the bottom. the dividers have one corner notched out so if you pour NEW sap into the one side/end the warm sap that is closer to being syrup is pushed around to the other dividers slowly and I have 2 small plugs that I put into the notched corners to keep the boiled down stuff separate from the close to done stuff. This way I can pull off SYRUP from one of the last divider while pouring in NEW sap and not have to worry about getting too much water into the near finished product. I drain off several gallons once the temp comes up to ~215 degrees from the wood fired big pan, I have a smaller S.S. pan built the same way that I use to get the syrup up to ~218 degrees. It sets over a dual burner camp stove and holds 5 gallons as a flat open pan. Both pans have Ball Valves taps on the bottom corner where I drain off the boiled down syrup off into finial pan. I have a 40 QT sauce pan that I do my final cooking and canning from usually inside the house. Final boiling point is 219 degrees F. Most commercial sugar people use a Hydrometer calibrated for SYRUP cost 30 bucks. mine did not last the first use, it broke as I put it into the cup the first time ruined a cup full of syrup and POed me good. I bought a Digital Temp gauge that goes to 250 degrees F, set up for Oven Cooking of food has beeper an all for 9 bucks at wally world. You have to calibrate it for the day you are working using Boiling Water 212deg F, then add 7 degrees F for proper Syrup range +/- 1.5 degrees is OK but too much cooking it gets dark & sugar will drop out in a gritty form very fast and can scorch. the link on page 2 I posted shows a PIC of when the big pan got low the Black Spot in one corner, that scorched some and is hard to clean up, but adds a smoky roast flavor.

Open Wood Fired is WAY better than the store bought stuff but you HAVE to use GOOD wood. Oak, Cherry or Maple seems to all work well. I used some Popular and it yucked up the flavor some, not much but it was not the best batch. I prefer Maple or Red Elm both must be DRY so that wet wood fire/smell does not get into the syrup. This may have been part of the "populars" type woods problem which was somewhat wet/punky. (wood pile was LOW on me so I tossed it in the fire thinking that it would be fine.)

I usually will BOIL every other day when running average if full on running I boil daily to keep up. I boil in batches mostly as I get ~20 gallons over night boil it with one good fire, then that gets down to say 5 gallons I let the fire go out. pour it all back into a bucket and pack with snow over night with good lid on bucket and toss a blanket/old carpet over the top . or put it into the shed that has 5" of concrete which acts like a freezer in Feb/March in Ohio when there is no snow. if I have low flowing sap and none collected for many days I will boil it down and store in fridge if temps are expected to come up much above freezing for any length of time or if I cant get to it. if it is boiled down it will store for several days ok, but the straight sap does not store for more than a day or two before it gets cloudy and that is bacteria eating the sugar in the sap. I had one batch do that after 3 days and I tossed it last year when I was working and didn't have time to boil it down.

I can mine up in mason jars pint and quart, and have one or two small ones to catch left overs and or make for gifts. I've never sold any yet but traded some off for some home made honey and swapped pint for pint with some other local low volume sugaring people. I like doing this and that way you get to find out what tastes best to you personally. so far it seems the 3 people I've done that with like mine the best, :D so I give them pointers, I'm the only one who was doing the open wood fire rout while others did the pan on stove and also using S.S. pans like me. Have not had any done in a COPPER pan yet (hint hint ;)

:D anyhow I would like to get a small shack for next year as we generally set out in open air shivering and drinking coffee with wet feet tending fire/syrup pan. I do like the fact last year I used the Nissan 4x4 to drive back into woods to get the syrup. was easier on me and the ground as the tractor is heavier with the narrow tread rutted up the yard some. Pathfinder seemed to go pretty dang good for a 1000 buck rusty beater..

Mark
 
   / Maple Syrup Time... #26  
That sounds like a huge amount of work for such a little bit produced, no wonder its so expensive.

Do you just put the hot syrup in jars and it seals? No more processing? Will it spoil?

Just a whole other something I have never seen nor done before, very interesting.
 
   / Maple Syrup Time... #27  
Syrup is HOT PACKED, not canned like you would vegetables, when you are boiling it down you also need to have the canning jars/lids hot & clean & ready. I let set as a small simmer and scoop through the final filters and drain strait out of the filters into the jars, Temp should be some where about 170 to 190 degrees for filling the jars. put hot lids onto the jars with rings to seal up and turn upside down and then back over and let cool. The lids should pop in about 5 min, keep the new jars away from the heat and dont stack close to each other so they cool and after lid pops can be stored for up to 2 years in cool dark place or inside fridge and after opening must stay in fridge. It will MOLD if left out or does not seal. We have had one or two that have not sealed and we check them prior to storing simply re-boiled and put on NEW lids to re-seal or used them fresh. I have one now that my brother opened & left out that I found & put away a day later that ended up molding & needs tossed. full quart too :( one of the old timers said you can scoop off the mold & re-boil it and it will be OK but have not tried that....

mark
 
   / Maple Syrup Time... #28  
What kind of sugar maples do you guys get your syrup from? Can you plant any of these said trees in California in the bay area? This sounds like a fun thing to do.
 
   / Maple Syrup Time... #29  
What kind of sugar maples do you guys get your syrup from? Can you plant any of these said trees in California in the bay area? This sounds like a fun thing to do.

For the sap to flow you have to have freezing temps at night and mild temps in the day.

How to Explain Sap Flow

I have just 1 maple on my property (tons of oaks) and that's right on the property line but I have the south side which is where you have to tap. this one 24" dia tree is remarkable for it's quantity and quality of sap, I got almost a gallon of syrup in just over a week of collecting sap from my 3 taps in this tree. I started late and have since pulled the taps cause the flow slowed way down, but this week the tree was pouring out again, so I guessed I pulled the taps to soon.

I'm constantly making it to thick thinking I can't possibly have this much syrup already. The thicker batch is even tastier but will turn sugary if not used in a few days after opening.

I got interested after reading a storey in the local news about a guy in town that taps about 30 trees in his neighborhood, it's a 45 year old sub division and the builder planted maple trees in all the front yards. I collected a couple of quarts of sap from my tree and boiled it on the stove only got a tiny bit of syrup but it was really syrup and tasted delicious, I was hooked.

Now I boil it in the back yard over a modified outdoor fireplace.

At 40 to 1 ratio it would take 10 gallons sap to make 1 QT syrup, I'm getting a quart out of about 7.5 gallons.

JB.
 

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Patriotic,

So how much summer do you get in Nova Scotia or Vermont? I would think not much, I'm guessing most of your activities center around snow? What industry is there up in there?

Our summer ranges from May to late October. Actually been swimming in the ocean first of October when we get hurricanes pushing warm air and water up the coast from Florida. Our winters are usually 4-5 months long. Sometimes shorter...

Our industries range from off shore oil/natural gas to hi-tech components for Nasa, US air force and air craft industries to Michelin Tire plants, to forest products to Health care, nurses, Dr.s etc. We offer some of the best wineries and breweries(micro) in the world to some of the best design, architectural and film professions. Over the years a lot of Hollywoods best we shot here: K-19, The Scarlet Letter, to name a few. We ship farm produce - apples - all over the world.

You would be surprised at some of the big(small) businesses tucked away in the small corner of our province suppling the world's needs

Thanks for your interest.

lloyd
 

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