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[SnowRidge]

I just think it could be a bit better, maybe 1500, 1600lbs. You have to remember this will be our all around tractor.

With all due respect, Power Trac isn't building or marketing that machine as an all around tractor. They don't even call it a tractor. Remember, beefier lift arms and stronger hydraulics would raise the price. The higher the price, the less competitive Power Trac is in the slope mower market.

 

[dgl24087]

Moss, the 5310 is 55 Engine Horsepower. PTO Horsepower is around 50. I should know, I've used it for a year and a half

Actually, the JD 5310 is 64 engine HP AND 55 pto hp.

 

[MossRoad]

Moss, the 5310 is 55 Engine Horsepower. PTO Horsepower is around 50. I should know, I've used it for a year and a half

Every 5310 I can find on the internet has a 55HP PTO. Also, the Nebraska tractor test lab report indicates it has 55HP at the PTO. Here's a link to their page. Click on the link for the 5310/5320. It is a PDF file.
TTL test reports/JD Deere

The reason I knew this is because I researched the 5310 back in 2001 when I was tractor shopping. The 5310 was too big for our needs, but one of the best bangs for the buck at the time. It was classified as a farm utility tractor, not a compact tractor that we were looking for. Very nice machine.

You aren't going to get comparable PTO HP out of the PT. My guess is it will be close to 40 PTO HP in the best case. And the JD will be able to out pull the PT, too when it comes to brute force. If you hooked the two tractors together back to back, the JD would pull the pt all over the place. The two machines are for completely different purposes and are hard to compare.

Also, compare the 1845 and the 1850. While the 1850 has 20 more HP, it also has 3" taller tires. That gears it up, which means less power to the tires in pulling situations VS 3" shorter tires if the engines and drive pump are the same.

You need to know these things before you make a purchase. I've read time and again people purchasing a PT then not being happy. Just be sure you know what you are getting in to if you are wanting the PT to take over many of the duties of your 5310.

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

Whoops! I was thinking of the JD 5300! Ah! I'm getting all mixed up. Your right, 64 Engine Horsepower so you get the idea of how big this machine is. But the engines are on a different size frame, Powering all hydraulics, and running 8 equal size tires instead of 4.

2 reasons why we want the 1850;
1.We need a machine that can do some serious Slope Climbing and Mowing. The 1850 is perfect for that.
2.With the state of the economy job availabity and job size has gone down but is still good. The only things that we use the 5310 for that is actually right up it's alley is Backhoe work. Every other job the 5310 is too big for (size, weight and Loader lift wise). 1200lbs lift will do but I just thought it could be better but it's ok.

 

[woodlandfarms]

There is not such thing as the right tractor in my opinion. You have compromises you must work through with all machines. So make a list of what is important and work back from there.

On the 1850, lift is a big issue to me, and one that is quite frustrating for me. 1200lbs is not much. Especially when you factor in the size / weight of our bucket. I bought heavier duty than what PT had, but Heavier duty means heavier. In my 60" bucket I can get about 2/3rds full of dirt or rock before I am out of lift range.

With a forklift, I think I got something like 15 sheets 1/2" of plywood before I capped out.

I had a pallet of roofing shingles, and I would say it was two wide by two or three deep by 5 high and that was it.

And it is only 6 feet, so when you dump into a pickup truck (over the rail of my 88 F-150) you have to tilt back up before you can drive away, or risk damaging the side bed of the truck.

But, I did some of this alongside a smaller 26 HP Kubota, and while it could lift higher, it had to lift less, and I could do things twice as fast. And when it cam time to unhook implements...

 

[J_J]

Carl,


Do you have three 55 gal plastic drums or something equal. If you have the drums, fill them with water, which has a weight of 8 lb per gal. That gives you 1320 lbs. Now, drain 15 gal from the drums, and that gives 1200 lbs. Put the drums in your bucket before adding water. Now try and lift with engine rpm up high, and joy stick back full. If it does not raise, then your pump is weak, or your cylinders are bypassing some, You would know if the relief valves were relieving. You might check and reset them. If you want to see just how much you can lift, just remove enough gal, and keep tab of water removed. When it starts to lift, then you will have a good estimate of your real lift capacity. I did something similar, and found out that my steering and lift pump was weak, by about 50 %

 

[Bob999]

Carl,


Do you have three 55 gal plastic drums or something equal. If you have the drums, fill them with water, which has a weight of 8 lb per gal. That gives you 1320 lbs. Now, drain 15 gal from the drums, and that gives 1200 lbs. Put the drums in your bucket before adding water. Now try and lift with engine rpm up high, and joy stick back full. If it does not raise, then your pump is weak, or your cylinders are bypassing some, You would know if the relief valves were relieving. You might check and reset them. If you want to see just how much you can lift, just remove enough gal, and keep tab of water removed. When it starts to lift, then you will have a good estimate of your real lift capacity. I did something similar, and found out that my steering and lift pump was weak, by about 50 %

I THINK that the 1200 lb lift capacity is the rating at the quick attach. To put it another way I THINK that the useful load of the bucket is 1200 less the weight of the bucket.

 

[J_J]

Bob,

You will know how much you can lift with the bucket in use at the time.

 

[woodlandfarms]

Don't have the drums at the moment but they are on the list. Good idea, will give it a try...

 

[ToolcatWonka5610]

Thats something we should try after we get our 1850.