Porch Views... East Wells,Vt

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I wanted to show a place where my Father-in-law & his brothers use to dig coal to heat their house when they were young boys.

My Father-in-law is 74 years old & he was 15 when they dug out the coal.....It goes back in around 200ft.

Picture 1 is the trail going to where they got the coal....and the hill is real steep, they used a pony to pull the coal out of the mountains to their house.
 
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   / Porch Views... East Wells,Vt
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Good Evenin Bill,
Thanks for posting those shots ! Some of those trails look pretty steep to me, must be quite a challenge on an atv or dirt bike ! :)

Did I ever tell you about the time I broke my leg flying through the air on my dirt bike ? ;) Well actually didnt break until I hit the tree at the bottom of the jump ! ;):)

Thats why the wife only lets me ride tractors that go slow ! ;)
 
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Picture 1 is starting up another mountain, going towards a strip
mining job.

Picture 2, 3 & 4 shows a house down in a valley.....The mountain is one of the highest points around.

Picture 5 is my pony:D
 
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   / Porch Views... East Wells,Vt #304  
Good Evenin Bill,
Thanks for posting those shots ! Some of those trails look pretty steep to me, must be quite a challenge on an atv or dirt bike ! :)

Did I ever tell you about the time I broke my leg flying through the air on my dirt bike ? ;) Well actually didnt break until I hit the tree at the bottom of the jump ! ;):)

Thats why the wife only lets me ride tractors that go slow ! ;)

Yea the trails are very steep.

There has been many people hurt on some of the hills....one guy wrecked last year during hunting season and broke both arms, and another hunter came through and found him.

No you didn't tell me about you breaking a leg....I gave up dirt bikes about 10 years ago....but i ride the street now.
 
   / Porch Views... East Wells,Vt #305  
I wanted to show a place where my Father-in-law & his brothers use to dig coal to heat their house when they were young boys.

Great pictures. I can't imagine what it's like to mine coal, and doing it on your own land is even more unbelievable. I've never seen coal in person, and of course, never seen it burn.

Is it a rock? How hard is it? Do you just hit it with a pick, and it comes apart? How much do you need to keep a house warm for the night? Where do you keep it? I guess water doesn't affect it if it gets rained on, or does it? But do you just pile it up outside the house and get what you need for the day?

Eddie
 
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Great pictures. I can't imagine what it's like to mine coal, and doing it on your own land is even more unbelievable. I've never seen coal in person, and of course, never seen it burn.

Is it a rock? How hard is it? Do you just hit it with a pick, and it comes apart? How much do you need to keep a house warm for the night? Where do you keep it? I guess water doesn't affect it if it gets rained on, or does it? But do you just pile it up outside the house and get what you need for the day?

Eddie

Yea it's a rock...It's either a "sedimentary rock" or a "metamorphic rock" and to tell how hard it is depends on what type it is.

There is 4 different types of coal.

Peat----Dark brown to black, with many visible plant fragments....It is soft and breaks unevenly when dry....It's a "sedimentary rock" and is low in carbon.

Lignite----Brown, with some visible plant material....It's crumbly and it's a "sedimentary rock" and the carbon content is medium.

Bituminous----Black, dirty to handle....hard and brittle and it's a "sedimentary rock" and the carbon content is high.

Anthracite----Glassy black....uneven surfaces and it's a "metamorphic rock" and the carbon content is extremely high.

The place where my father-in-law got the coal they had to use a pick....and back in the old days in a real coal mine, they used picks & used dynamite.....I don't know how much it takes to heat a house at night, but if you could get large lumps of coal, that would burn longer.

I don't know anyone that uses coal to heat their houses now....they use wood, I moved to Kentucky in 1985 and people used coal, and they had a special place to keep the coal...It was a big box made out of wood about 20x20 with sides that went up.

Some would cover it up and others wouldn't.....and the type that was used to heat houses was not affected by rain....I have been told by some old people in this area that they would get coal out of the river back in the 60's & 70's and use that to heat their houses.
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I worked 10 years in the coal mine and the first mine that i worked in was a conventional mine.....and they used a cutter machine to cut the bottom of the coal, and then used dynamite to shoot the coal, and it all came down in big lumps.

In that type of mine, it went straight into the mountain and there was no gases in the mine.

The other type of mine i worked in was a deep mine, and we used a continuous miner to cut the coal.....and it cut the coal up into smaller lumps.

We had to ride a elevator to go down over 300ft. and it was 8 miles to the working face of the coal....In a deep mine there was high levels of methane gas, and most of the time we had to shut off all equipment if the gases got high & get fresh air to the face.

The continuous miner had a gas detector on it and would shut off if it hit gas...BUT I have seen the C.M. hit a pocket of gas and a fire ball roll across the top of the mine, and travel about 60ft.back.

After we mined out all the coal that the map showed, then we had a plan to pull pillars....and that was the coal left for support for the top as we mined in.

A mine inspector had to approve pulling pillars, and this job was dangerous...but exciting:D...because we got to watch the top fall in after we cut the pillars.....and we have lost equipment because the top started falling behind us, most of the time if the top fell behind us it was because they wasn't taking out the whole pillar, and the pressure would ride back & find a weak place in the top.

The deep mine also had another section that had a piece of equipment called a "long wall" and that equipment took all coal, and the top fell all the time....I have worked on that section before and really liked it......I have video of the three types of mining that i worked in, and wished i knew how to show it on here.....You would like it:D

Sometimes on the roof of the mines you could see fossils, I have seen leafs, ferns that showed the whole plant and other things.

Eddie & others,

I don't know if this picture will show up...but it's a piece of rock that i got from the mines when i worked that shows some kind of weed or plant.
 
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   / Porch Views... East Wells,Vt #307  
Very interesting post and education about the mining. Thanks.
 
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Uh oh. . . now Eddie's gonna ask you if you ever saw any dinosaurs down there turning into oil.:rolleyes:

Sorry Eddie.:eek: I just couldn't resist kidding you a little.;)
 
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Jim,

You sort of read my mind. I was wondering about that picture and how coal is created in such a way as to get that sort of fossil way down deep in the mine. It's really an impressive picture and says volumes about the age of the planet, and how much it is constantly changing. If that was 100 million years old, what will the planet look like in another 100 million years? The changes will be un-imaginable.


JohnDeere4300,

Thanks for the information about the coal and your personal account of what it's like working in a mine. I've never been in a mine and probably never will. One of these days I'm going to be someplace where I can buy some coal. I want to bring it home and set it on fire just to see it burn for myself.

Eddie
 
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Eddie, like you, I grew up where I'd never even seen coal; that was just something you read about in books. But then I married a gal from West Virginia in 1965, so my first trip up there, two years later, we visited an exhibition mine. I guess it was the one at Beckley, WV. I guess I usually think of the softer, dirty coal, but as Johndeere4300 mentioned, the anthracite is pretty hard, glossy black and the gift shop at Pipestem has had some really pretty carvings made from coal. I bought one carving of a steam engine for a Xmas present for a son-in-law a few years ago.
 

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