Do I need a slip clutch?

   / Do I need a slip clutch?
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#13  
yeah, its the gas version. I'm in southern IN, Paoli way. Perched top a ridge.
 
   / Do I need a slip clutch?
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#14  
Hey all, thanks for the info on slip clutches! Especially slip clutches vs. override clutches--I think I was about to spring for an override clutch and try to use it like a slip clutch which I think would totally not work. My thought was that having a slip clutch on the tractor end (on the six-spline pto stub) would let me use all my old implements with slip clutch protection for the drive train. But from what I've been hearing, I think slip clutches are pretty much only for the implement end and you need one for each implement. Am I right? Or does anyone know of a "tractor-end" slip clutch?

Also, I busted a PTO shaft when my flail mower got a fresh walnut branch wound around in it, and I've heard that belt-drive implements shouldn't need a slip clutch or shear bolt since the belt should slip if the implement is bound. Well, this happened on my flail mower and the belt sure didn't slip, it sheared off the square tubing of the pto on the implement end and I am wondering what's the deal? All I can think of is 1) I really do need a slip clutch or shear bolt on the flail mower, or 2) that pto shaft was already cracked and ready to bust, and thus weaker than the belt. The break line on the tubing was bright new metal on one side, but a little rusty on the other side of the break, this makes me think it already had a crack. What do you all think?

Also, does anyone know where to buy just the plastic pto guard (this one didn't have a guard and I'm just lucky that spinning pto didn't throw shrapnel into me!) I could put in this pto if I get it welded with new square tubing?
 
   / Do I need a slip clutch? #15  
I really need to look into getting a slip clutch. I shear at least one pin if not three everytime I bushhog. At 2 dollars per bolt it will not take long to make the clutch pay for itself if I can get one for around a 100 dollars.

Are there any particular brands recommended?
 
   / Do I need a slip clutch? #16  
Aanyone know where to buy just the plastic pto guard (this one didn't have a guard and I'm just lucky that spinning pto didn't throw shrapnel into me!) I could put in this pto if I get it welded with new square tubing?
Rural King has everything you need, tubing/sleeves/yokes/etc. But the separate bits aren't cheap. Depending upon the nature of the repair, it's often cheaper just to buy a complete new shaft.

Sounds like you had a pre-existing fault on that PTO shaft, cuz the belt definitely should have gone before the driveline. Slip clutch belongs on the implement for safety sake. Putting one behind the driver's seat - with all those spinning protrusions - is an invitation to disaster

//greg//
 
   / Do I need a slip clutch? #17  
Paoli Indiana huh? Been there a few times. Got a friend who lives in Ramsey.

Anyway.... A slip clutch is a good investement. They save equipment from premature destruction. I know there's a TSC in Corydon, which isn't too far from you. They'll have 'em. Once you get it, find out what brand and then contact the manufacturer for a chart on spring pre-load for specific horsepower ratings. Your TO35 should be 32hp.
 
   / Do I need a slip clutch? #18  
Some implements do hav ethe torque limiter on the tractor end.. I have a jd batwing like this. however.. most of my other slip clutch implements have the clutch at the gearbox.. etc.

soundguy

Hey all, thanks for the info on slip clutches! Especially slip clutches vs. override clutches--I think I was about to spring for an override clutch and try to use it like a slip clutch which I think would totally not work. My thought was that having a slip clutch on the tractor end (on the six-spline pto stub) would let me use all my old implements with slip clutch protection for the drive train. But from what I've been hearing, I think slip clutches are pretty much only for the implement end and you need one for each implement. Am I right? Or does anyone know of a "tractor-end" slip clutch?

Also, I busted a PTO shaft when my flail mower got a fresh walnut branch wound around in it, and I've heard that belt-drive implements shouldn't need a slip clutch or shear bolt since the belt should slip if the implement is bound. Well, this happened on my flail mower and the belt sure didn't slip, it sheared off the square tubing of the pto on the implement end and I am wondering what's the deal? All I can think of is 1) I really do need a slip clutch or shear bolt on the flail mower, or 2) that pto shaft was already cracked and ready to bust, and thus weaker than the belt. The break line on the tubing was bright new metal on one side, but a little rusty on the other side of the break, this makes me think it already had a crack. What do you all think?

Also, does anyone know where to buy just the plastic pto guard (this one didn't have a guard and I'm just lucky that spinning pto didn't throw shrapnel into me!) I could put in this pto if I get it welded with new square tubing?
 
   / Do I need a slip clutch? #19  
I really need to look into getting a slip clutch. I shear at least one pin if not three everytime I bushhog. At 2 dollars per bolt it will not take long to make the clutch pay for itself if I can get one for around a 100 dollars.

Are there any particular brands recommended?

2$ yikes.. are your shear bolts / pins something special that you can't use a soft grade 2 bolt in place of.. 2$ buys alot of grade 2 bolts!

soundguy
 
   / Do I need a slip clutch? #20  
Brambleberry, I use a splined slip clutch on my tractor. It's true that newer equipment ofter comes with protection on the equipment, but as long as it slips when it's supposed to both ends are protected. How many do you want to buy??? I don't see an advantage to having one on each piece of equipment spending most of their time sitting unused vs having one on the tractor getting more frequent use other than the equipment mount being adjusted for that specific equipment. If it's infrequently used you got to adjust it each time anyway!!
For what it's worth I don't see the 6 spinning bolts & springs on a tractor end being any more an invitation to disaster that anything else pto associated.

Workmytractor, More than saving the price of grade 2 bolts, you'll save the time of pounding out the old one & installing a new one, which is better spent working your tractor. MikeD74T
 
 

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