FX24D vs. 2420D

[California]

other suggestions...?

Would adding height help any? If the obstacle to the rear has a slope, then making the seat higher might let you move it back farther without cutting up all that sheet metal.

Also, a different model of seat might fit back farther.

I'm no larger than an average Japanese farmer and even so, I find my Yanmar tight - it's like a fighter plane cockpit. An emergency exit would be near impossible if the thing were going over. At least they give you good acrobat's 'vaulting handles' on the fenders!

I wouldn't be surprised if these things don't flop on their sides in the rice paddies once in a while. My risk is a little greater, with terraces as much as 8ft lower in my sloping orchard, so I could conceivably roll it a couple of revolutions if I mow/disc too close to the edge. My first addition was a ROPS, after considering the difficulty of bailing out of this thing.

 

[rhett]

My risk is a little greater, with terraces as much as 8ft lower in my sloping orchard, so I could conceivably roll it a couple of revolutions if I mow/disc too close to the edge. My first addition was a ROPS, after considering the difficulty of bailing out of this thing.

WOW, your situation has me wonder what the UTDA ROPS Certification covers? to me, they look like after a full 360* roll they would deform, the second or third just might collapse. Me I would be looking for a full Roll Cage on those hills. Heck, a full roll cage is my choice to build when cash permits just so real rough brush cutting can be done without limbs knocking me off my tractor.

 

[California]

WOW, your situation has me wonder what the UTDA ROPS Certification covers? to me, they look like after a full 360* roll they would deform, the second or third just might collapse. Me I would be looking for a full Roll Cage on those hills. Heck, a full roll cage is my choice to build when cash permits just so real rough brush cutting can be done without limbs knocking me off my tractor.

Here's a picture I posted to show the backhoe ripping out blackberries that are down the slope of a terrace. That's about an 8 ft drop. These 100 year old trees have slid half way down the slope then got choked with blackberries. I'm trying to recover them for harvest along with the rest of the orchard.

And the ROPS won't help when I'm on the backhoe seat!

I'll just put a link to the photo since it's not really related to the original intent of this thread.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ly-broke-something-p1210561rclearbbbushes.jpg

Here's an older photo where I was trying to attack the blackberry jungle on that slope using the loader. It is essentially a 'before' picture showing one of the trees in the other photo.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/...ner-kinda-sorta-p1130949r-loaderinberries.jpg

And here is an old thread describing the ROPS certification standards. Essentially, a 10 mph rollover, or, a side blow with a pendulum as heavy as the entire tractor.

 

[rhett]

hi California, understood ROPS = "Roll Over Protection Structure" and the old thread explain allot but,

, so I could conceivably roll it a couple of revolutions if I mow/disc too close to the edge.

just was commenting the second or third revolution of a rollover would not be part of the described tests. again, you may be correct the ROPS would prevent this. then again my pucker factor would have me investigate calculations before submitting.

honestly, i see the ROPS phenomenon as the Hot Rod safety for getting the teens to keep up the yard.

Sheesh, 1st gear, and I will get there. ROPS defined as a "Roll Over Protection Structure" is out of line for extreme use. more like "ROPS = Roll Over Preventive Structure" is a better acronym, those Roll Bars most definitely provide limited protection.

I'm 1,000% for safety, but the descriptive environment initially leads me to believe that a ROPS device was not suitable for the described situation. Dependent on actual circumstances, I believe the Roll Bar might survive one 360 roll, but 2 or 3 as described? was not the Pendulum test of just one strike?

there are way too many variables of angles and strike force to 100% evaluate, a ROPS on on moderate terrain is a big yes. when the environment gets hairy and question is the word of the day - consideration of play scenarios become In Play! being caught between st the ROPS and a tree trunk or large limb?

Sheesh, just mumbling. I know i'm very wrong at certain calculations, the third flip, i would not want to be attached though.

in no way am i questioning your safe behavior, just in question of the possible multiple rollover of a basic ROPS Bar. On a flat lawn or forgiving inclines OK, Off Road type behavior, Who Knows !

In belief that misinformed ROPS use is as dangerous as not having it, with it's installation being viewed as a false security to all situations. Safety will always be dependent on the operators abilities.

I do not to want to put one on its side, much less rollover...