Factory vs aftermarket buckets

   / Factory vs aftermarket buckets #21  
Ken, if you roll the bucket back so that the teeth are up off the ground, you then use the back of the bucket and have a smooth flat surface. I actually like back dragging with my toothed bucket and using the teeth, it then disperses the uneven ground evenly.

With loose material, dragging with the back of the bucket will tend to pile up material behind the bucket. A flat bucket or slightly tilted forward does a better job of smoothing.

It all depends on the material, how smooth you want it and how good of an operator you are. But basically it is easier to do a smooth finish job without teeth on the bucket.
 
   / Factory vs aftermarket buckets #22  
e.myers in several of your posts you mention sandy clay as if it is not a heavy material. You have considered larger buckets and loaders for your tractor to move more material at a time. I think you will find a heaping bucket of sandy clay will be all your tractor will want to handle with the standard bucket. Neither clay nor sand is a light weight material.

Tooth bar, loaded tires, tiller as a counter weight and 4wd will all help with your digging.

MarkV
 
   / Factory vs aftermarket buckets #23  
With loose material, dragging with the back of the bucket will tend to pile up material behind the bucket. A flat bucket or slightly tilted forward does a better job of smoothing.

It all depends on the material, how smooth you want it and how good of an operator you are. But basically it is easier to do a smooth finish job without teeth on the bucket.

I agree with you, the surface comes out flatter if the bucket is flat with the ground. But if you want a smooth surface and have teeth on your bucket, then you need to use the rear of the bucket.
 
   / Factory vs aftermarket buckets
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#24  
Thanks everyone.
Will wait to see if I need the toothbar but link to the recommended one is on my desktop.

Ended up going with a OEM round HD round back bucket, same volume, heavier weight with holes predrilled for auxilliary edge (as needed).

MarkV-
It's actually a material called "sand clay" It is a sandy clay as you say, but it's a material that contractors like to use because of it's ability to pack well. Yeah, it's definitely heavy, but my point was I'm not planning on lifting concrete or rock with it. Thinking that's much heavier than my sand clay.... but maybe not.
 
   / Factory vs aftermarket buckets #25  
Thanks everyone.
Will wait to see if I need the toothbar but link to the recommended one is on my desktop.

Ended up going with a OEM round HD round back bucket, same volume, heavier weight with holes predrilled for auxilliary edge (as needed).

MarkV-
It's actually a material called "sand clay" It is a sandy clay as you say, but it's a material that contractors like to use because of it's ability to pack well. Yeah, it's definitely heavy, but my point was I'm not planning on lifting concrete or rock with it. Thinking that's much heavier than my sand clay.... but maybe not.
Are you planning on buying the bolt on cutting edge fo the Bucket?
 
   / Factory vs aftermarket buckets #26  
I agree with you, the surface comes out flatter if the bucket is flat with the ground. But if you want a smooth surface and have teeth on your bucket, then you need to use the rear of the bucket.
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But if using the rear, you might want to add, say, a 3 X 3 HD angle as a wear element as bucket rear bottoms are not all that thick.
You could just find youself wearing out the bottom!
 
   / Factory vs aftermarket buckets #27  
I would get the bolt on cutting edge for the bucket for sure. Before the leading edge of the bucket is damaged.


Just off the top of my head, clay fill dirt is about 2200 lbs /cu yd. heavy gravels are about 2600lbs . You don't want to be working anywhere near the loader capacity rating while doing normal dirt work. The normal volume heavy duty bucket should work just fine for you.



Steve
 
   / Factory vs aftermarket buckets #28  
You don't want to be working anywhere near the loader capacity rating while doing normal dirt work.

Why not? Are you saying that loaders should not be used near capacity?
 
   / Factory vs aftermarket buckets #30  
Why not? Are you saying that loaders should not be used near capacity?


In operation where you are moving around on a site with uneven ground you can overstress the loader if you are at maximum capacity. This same loader can pick up a pallet of pavers (as an example) on a paved parking area and slowly move around without a problem even though it is a heavier load. My point is that site or ground conditions make a huge difference in what you should consider as a working load.


Steve
 
 

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