Kioti DK40SE Tilt Cylinder Pic's

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CowwFace

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Kioti DK45SE HST, 401FEL, RB40-96 pivoting Rear Blade
Hey List,

Well I finally got the tilt cylinder on my Kioti DK45SE HST. I'm running of of the stock rear remote. I used 3/8" hose on purpose to hopefully slow the flow down enough to make smaller adjustments possible.

I used a cylinder from Northerntools.com
Lion Heavy-Duty Tie-Rod Hydraulic Cylinder — 2500 PSI, 3in. Bore, 6in. Stroke, Model# 30TL06-125 | 2500 PSI Tie Rod Cylinders | Northern Tool + Equipment

My neighbor is a mold maker and he fabricated some bushings that matched the diameter of the top and bottom pins (different size .. a bit larger diameter pin on top) and he tacked them into the yokes of the hydraulic cylinder.

I used a 5/8" by 6" long grade 8 bold for the bottom pin. I just cut it off and drilled a hole for the codderpin. And the top, I got a hitch pin from Murdochs and had to decrease it's total diameter with a 4" grinder to make it fit.

You can also see that I moved the adjustable side link over to the left side, this allows me to set it about 1/2 way between the min and max length of the hydraulic cylinder.. so I can get some tilt both ways... but if I need more tilt I can do that with the adjustable side link on the left. I'll post more pic's when I get the rear blade back on.

Phill
 

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Nice! Have you tested it out yet? Did the 3/8 line work for slowing the fluid down ok? I've been thinking of getting a hydraulic top link for my tractor.
 
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Another question, do you have to manually unlock your remote lever when the cylinder bottoms out? If yours is like mine it locks into a detent. How easilly are you able to make fine adjustments with the lever?
 
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Another question, do you have to manually unlock your remote lever when the cylinder bottoms out? If yours is like mine it locks into a detent. How easilly are you able to make fine adjustments with the lever?

Hey Carpenter,

I've tested it in the garage, but not with the blade on yet. I agree that the detent on the stock lever is pretty tight. I think Kioti makes it that way b/c some guys run backhoes and other equipment that need a constant flow?

When I was messing with it in the garage I got to where I could move the lever w/o getting it into the detent and the cylinder would move pretty slow so I think it will work pretty well. As you can see I don't have a Pilot Operated Check Valve on this setup.. So I will report back to any drift problems that I may have.

Presently I only have a 96" rear blade that I use for road grading, so hopefully drift will be minimal.. with a heavier Box Blade possibly could be worse?

Carry on,
Phill
 
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You can also see that I moved the adjustable side link over to the left side, this allows me to set it about 1/2 way between the min and max length of the hydraulic cylinder.. so I can get some tilt both ways... but if I need more tilt I can do that with the adjustable side link on the left. I'll post more pic's when I get the rear blade back on.

Phill

Why didn't you just put the cylinder on the left side and leave the crank mechanism on the right? Maybe just less sharp hose routing?

Boulter
 
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Why didn't you just put the cylinder on the left side and leave the crank mechanism on the right? Maybe just less sharp hose routing?

Boulter

Hey Boulter,

With the hydraulic cyl on the left side it was really close (about 1/2-3/4 inch) to the stock rear remotes when the 3PH was all the way up.

Arguably 3/4" is plenty of clearance.. but just in case I moved it over to the right side. PLUS it helps me keep it straight in my head, since the lever is on the right also. (I'm reaching on that one)

Carry on,
Phill
 
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Your install looks great, But I found one comment very curious:
I used 3/8" hose on purpose to hopefully slow the flow down enough to make smaller adjustments possible.

Most use 1/4" hose for this reason, not 3/8". 3/8" would be considered "standard" size hose on your machine.
 
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Hyd with a velocity of 15 ft per sec

1/2 hose will flow about 10.6 GPM

3/8 --------------------6.0 GPM

1/4---------------------2.5 GPM

If that is not slow enough, install a needle valve. adjustable from 0 GPM to your tractor max flow.
 
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Your install looks great, But I found one comment very curious:


Most use 1/4" hose for this reason, not 3/8". 3/8" would be considered "standard" size hose on your machine.

Hey Kennyd,

Being a follower of "pragmatic tractor modification"... I found some 1/2" to 3/8" fittings at Harbor freight for 90cents each ... so that, of coarse, was the center design feature in my blueprints? hehehe

I still have not mounted the rear blade back on the 3PH yet.. I'm courious to see what the speed of the cylinder looks like amplifided over an 8 foot (well I guess 4 foot) distance?

On another note: I painted the cylinder with: DUPLI-COLOR DE1620 Engine Enamel, and that seems to be a pretty close match to my eyes for the stock Kioti Orange.

Carry on,
Phill
 
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Phill, have you double checked the full travel of the side link? The bottom clevis looks like it might be a tight squeeze as the 3PT moves up and down. I would double check before you put it to work. You don't want the clevis to bind on the lower link. :eek:

Good luck
 

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