Eureka Fluid Film

   / Eureka Fluid Film #71  
It's great on leather seats, smooth leather shoes, hands, anything metal left outside.

Got a nice used leather coat at a 4th hand store few weeks ago, covered it with FF, let it sit for a day, looks NEW. Soaks in great.

Doesn't last too long, although I use it, on underbody car parts. Sprayed front underneath of car last week, still smelling it, not unpleasant, today.

Mike
 
   / Eureka Fluid Film #72  
Our Log splitter calls for 'Graphite Spray' for lube on the rail. Could 'Fluid Film' be used instead?
 
   / Eureka Fluid Film #74  
Finally bought some Fluid Film two weeks ago at a John Deere store (first time ever in a green store!). The wife bought a new horse trailer recently and was complaining that all 10 locks were hard to operate (sticking). Sprayed the inside of each lock last night and today, she wondered why each lock was working like they should be. Great stuff!!
 
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   / Eureka Fluid Film #76  
Wow, and I just bought some Fluid Film to spray on some cylinders while storing for the winter. They will be in a shed, so they probably will be ok. I was surprised at the results of that test.
 
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I'm not trying to "knock" the results of that persons backyard testing. I'll just provide the following information in the spirit of a balanced discussion:

Other Tests Conducted on Fluid Film:

* Naval Surface Warfare Center, Carderock Division, Ship Systems Engineering Station Code 9770, Philadelphia, PA. in June, 1997 for corrosion preventives and lubricants used on shipboard cargo/weapons elevators and other equipment using rails:

Fluid Film was found to be "the superior performer of all tested materials." In fact, the difference in performance was found to be "profound," and was touted as "the most telling result of all the testing accomplished for this project." A directive was issued on April 13, 1994 to use Fluid Film, reducing the maintenance schedules for shipboard cargo/weapons elevator guide rails from quarterly to annually, leading to an estimated savings of over six figures.

* Naval Aviation Depot in Pensacola Florida conducted a process improvement study in October 1991, comparing Fluid Film to the required preservatives being used. In addition, further testing was conducted on Fluid Film for its corrosion protection capabilities in an outside environment:

Fluid Film was found to provide superior protection in salt water environments, and in testing conducted to direct exposure to the outside environment, Fluid Film was found to provide "outstanding results." Further statements made about Fluid Film included "Fluid Film provides superior corrosion protection plus a more environmentally safe work place. The use of this preservative will help to remove another ozone depleting substance from the system."

* Boeing North American, Inc. Space Systems Division wrote specification MB0110-020 for Fluid Film's use on the Space Shuttle after Fluid Film met or exceeded all of the following requirements:
o Salt Spray Test Requirement - 750 hours in a 5% salt fog environment according to ASTM B117.
o Solids Content Requirement - At least 95%, ignoring water loss, when tested in accordance with ASTM D2369.
o Heat Resistance Requirement - Subjecting one panel to a temperature of 150コF for one hour per FED-STD-141.
o Flash Point Requirement - The flash point will be no less than 400コ F when tested per ASTM D92.

Boeing ran an additional test, placing Fluid Film in a 5% salt fog chamber with dissimilar metals, an environment which creates an extremely corrosive environment. Fluid Film's use as a corrosion preventive was cemented as a result.
Fluid Film was also tested by Boeing's Engineering Materials and Process Laboratory and found to be twice as effective as commonly used CPC's for aluminum alloys.

* Boeing-Mesa conducted a study in 1996 to find environmentally friendly corrosion preventive materials for short-term protection. The following comments are a result of this study:

"Agencies and companies such as the Department of the Navy at Pensacola, Sikorsky Aircraft, the U.S. Air Force in Georgia, the Naval Surface Warfare Center in Philadelphia, Boeing North American, and the U.S. Coast Guard at Miami and several other locations have done testing and approved the Fluid Film product for the short term corrosion protection application. When the above were contacted, their unanimous opinion was that the Fluid Film product provided the best short-term corrosion protection of all the environmental friendly materials tested."

* In 1994 the Naval Surface Warfare Center, Port Hueneme Division, conducted tests to find a replacement for Class One Ozone Depleting Substances. As a result of the testing conducted by the Naval Aviation Depot in Pensacola, Florida, Fluid Film was tested against existing MIL-SPECS, MIL-C-16173 and MIL-C-81309. The results are as follows:

"All missile processing facilities are hereby authorized to procure and begin implementing of these products into their missile processing flow. Fluid Film is the only corrosion preventative compound authorized for use on STANDARD missile."

* The Department of Metallurgy and Materials Engineering at the University of Connecticut conducted AC and DC Electrochemical Studies of Fluid Film on 2024 Aluminum for a report to be published in a 35 page report in "Corrosion" journal in 1998. Here are some excerpts and the conclusion of their findings:

"High strength aluminum alloys are used extensively in aircraft structures because of their excellent strength-to-weight ration.A national intent to keep existing military and commercial aircraft in service well beyond their intended life span of ~ 25 years has prompted considerable effort on methods for both detecting and preventing such forms of corrosion in aircraft."
"it is clear that the observations described in this paper show that the commercial wool wax-based corrosion preventative coating, Fluid Filmョ, effectively reduces corrosion of 2024 aluminum in aqueous brine and, perhaps of greater significance, it is nearly equally effective when applied to the alloy after exposure to a corroding environment."

* Purdue University conducted an Aging Aircraft Project sponsored by the Air Force Office of Scientific Research in February of 1996. The Test was conducted to evaluate the effectiveness of Fluid Film for stress corrosion resistance of Aluminum Alloy 2024-T351. The results are as follows:

"We have shown that the Fluid Film coating provided effective protection of AA 2024-T351 from environmental damage...applying Fluid Filmョ before exposure gave the best results."

* Sunstrand Aerospace wrote specification MS02.43-01 for Fluid Film's use as a preservative oil for magnesium, which is now used as a standard throughout the helicopter industry.
* The U.S. Coast Guard wrote an engineering specification GEN200000.01B for Fluid Film with the purpose being to improve the corrosion resistance of corrosion prone areas of aircraft.
* Delta Airlines wrote a process standard recommending Fluid Film as a general purpose maintenance lubricant, stating that Fluid Film "has excellent penetrating and corrosion preventive characteristics. Fluid Film differs from other general purpose maintenance lubricants in that the lubricating capability remains for extended periods of time and is not subject to evaporation."

Delta also wrote that "One significant point to be made regarding Delta's use of Fluid Film is the fact that it performed better as a penetrant than any product to free-up corroded parts."

o Fluid Film has been tested by the U.S. Air Force in accordance with Mil-C-16173-E Grade 2, and was found to exceed all requirements.
 
   / Eureka Fluid Film #78  
So this summer I bought a hedge trimmer. And the manufacture recommended Fluid Film on the blades for storage. One of the big selling points is it was plant friendly do to the lack of harmful chemicals. So... Me not knowing anything about it I researched. Got the MSDS and it read just like the one for LPS 3. Ok, some decent stuff in it. No mention of lanolin though and thats all over their sales brochures. Not that it matters to me, I just thought it was odd.

I have a number of issues but like bob I don't want to knock something I was not involved in. For an easy example read the MSDS for each product, LPS is nothing like Fluid film. LPS has a 68% VOC content per the MSDS Fluid film is less then 1% VOC content. I think LPS MSDS is in need of a correction since the flash point is 70F. In aerosol form fluid film has 2 components that have to be listed on the MSDS, LPS has 5 components. I simply don't understand any statement that one is just like the other. Example LPS contains mineral spirits and acetone, fluid film has neither.
 
   / Eureka Fluid Film #79  
Bob,
You need to update the MSDS on Kellsport to the February 2008.
 

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