New guys take on pros & cons of 45 HP range of CUT's

[Diamondpilot]

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Glad you found each other to play with. Or maybe its just you?

Chris

 

[Lt CHEG]

I'll be sure to post some pictures when I get the tractor. It's still not a 100% done deal yet, due to the nature of how the tractor is being acquired, but the dealer is fully confident. I know I'll be happy with this tractor, as it felt and performed the way I wanted to when I tried it out originally. Truthfully I think the only thing that I would offer as an improvement would be to give it a true 3 range hydro tranny, but I think the dual 2 range for lack of a better term tranny will be more than adequate for my needs.

My wife and I have also decided that we are going to grow Christmas trees on the periphery of our property. We decided that rather than installing 5 foot stockade fence around the perimeter that we will get our privacy from trees. We will plant three rows of trees of different agest. That way we will harvest different areas and different rows at different times so as to always have some sort of tree cover for privacy. This will also leave us with just about the full 6.5 acres for our own enjoyment too. Plus it will give me something to do around the house that isn't too demanding but will help take my mind off of work and bring in a few extra bucks every year. I think if we do plant Christmas trees that a backhoe attachment might come in handy as well down the road.

I'm really looking forward to giving this land management thing a try. I'm hoping that like many of you here I will come to enjoy some time on the tractor seat, in the peace of my cab as an escape from the regular world. I'm also hoping that this will help us get our land set up EXACTLY the way we want it, because we'll be doing a lot of the setting up. I'm also hoping that the neighbor will sell us the adjoining parcel some day too, as more land, and more of a buffer would be a good thing. I'm thinking that maybe I'll introduce myself formally in the spring. I was also thinking of maybe offering to bush hog the land for him as a nice neighborly gesture. I'm hoping that we'll get along and some day they'll want to sell me the land. I've got great neighbors now and I hope that I'll continue that lucky streak at the new place.

 

[Builder]

I see you know very little like some others here.

Same reason some guys buy Honda. Tired of all the crap Detroit and the bailed out companies put out.

I will put a Jinma 284 up against any current production 28Hp tractor. It will flat drag it around.

Chris

Why? 28Hp is 28HP. As long as all other aspects are the same, transmission, tires, weight, etc. the sticker on the hood or the fact that it's Chinese made, or African made for that matter, makes no difference. Oh, and BTW, most Honda cars are American made, so in terms of production, they are almost as American as Detroit made vehicles. It's just the profits go back to another country.

 

[Builder]

My wife and I have also decided that we are going to grow Christmas trees on the periphery of our property. We decided that rather than installing 5 foot stockade fence around the perimeter that we will get our privacy from trees. We will plant three rows of trees of different agest. That way we will harvest different areas and different rows at different times so as to always have some sort of tree cover for privacy. This will also leave us with just about the full 6.5 acres for our own enjoyment too. Plus it will give me something to do around the house that isn't too demanding but will help take my mind off of work and bring in a few extra bucks every year. I think if we do plant Christmas trees that a backhoe attachment might come in handy as well down the road.

I'd look into a PTO powered auger with a 3' + diameter bit for planting trees. Much nicer holes than a backhoe and probably 1/8th the price. You might be able to find a used tree transplanter to dig them up. Backhoes are not good for digging up trees that have to be handled carefully.

I'm really looking forward to giving this land management thing a try. I'm hoping that like many of you here I will come to enjoy some time on the tractor seat, in the peace of my cab as an escape from the regular world. I'm also hoping that this will help us get our land set up EXACTLY the way we want it, because we'll be doing a lot of the setting up. I'm also hoping that the neighbor will sell us the adjoining parcel some day too, as more land, and more of a buffer would be a good thing. I'm thinking that maybe I'll introduce myself formally in the spring. I was also thinking of maybe offering to bush hog the land for him as a nice neighborly gesture. I'm hoping that we'll get along and some day they'll want to sell me the land. I've got great neighbors now and I hope that I'll continue that lucky streak at the new place.

You and I enjoy the same things in life. It is a nice "get away" in the cab. I run either my LB 115 backhoe or my MT285B almost everyday, gaining valuable experience along the way while making a living. Contrary to popular belief here, it takes considerable seat time to get experienced and learn all the tricks of setting up, positioning the machine to save time and wear.

 

[WilliamBos]

Oh, and BTW, most Honda cars are American made, so in terms of production, they are almost as American as Detroit made vehicles. It's just the profits go back to another country.

Exactly!! Why is it better, when it is also made here? one thing I never understood.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Why? 28Hp is 28HP. As long as all other aspects are the same, transmission, tires, weight, etc. the sticker on the hood or the fact that it's Chinese made, or African made for that matter, makes no difference. Oh, and BTW, most Honda cars are American made, so in terms of production, they are almost as American as Detroit made vehicles. It's just the profits go back to another country.

Tranny and weight. Most of the new Cuts are just big lawn mowers. They have lost sight of what a tractor is. Look at a old Farmall M or any other tractor from this era. Not much HP but lots of weight and could pull like a mule. Hydros are great for estate work but for real tractor work the gear tranny with 16 speed or more still wins the war.

Honda=no UAW. Enough said.

You guys and myself are allowing this to get way off topic. Sorry OP.

Chris

 

[Builder]

Tranny and weight. Most of the new Cuts are just big lawn mowers. They have lost sight of what a tractor is. Look at a old Farmall M or any other tractor from this era. Not much HP but lots of weight and could pull like a mule. Hydros are great for estate work but for real tractor work the gear tranny with 16 speed or more still wins the war.

Honda=no UAW. Enough said.

You guys and myself are allowing this to get way off topic. Sorry OP.

Chris

From my last post: "As long as all other aspects are the same, transmission, tires, weight, etc. the sticker on the hood or the fact that it's Chinese made, or African made for that matter, makes no difference." Didn't you read that? Given all those aspects are the same, you think just because a tractor is made by Jimna, that it is more powerful? What about a gear driven Kubota, Deere, NH of the same weight? Wouldn't they be just as powerful? Please explain why a Jimna 28HP gear tractor of the same weight is more powerful than a different brand of the same weight?

I thought the "my tractor is better than your tractor" stuff wasn't allowed here. This doesn't seem like the topic, time or place for Jimna talk anyway.

 

[bp fick]

Oh, and BTW, most Honda cars are American made, so in terms of production, they are almost as American as Detroit made vehicles. It's just the profits go back to another country.

Actually, the profits, if there are any, go to the share holders, who can reside anywhere and be citizens of any country.

 

[lungdoc]

I'd look into a PTO powered auger with a 3' + diameter bit for planting trees. Much nicer holes than a backhoe and probably 1/8th the price. You might be able to find a used tree transplanter to dig them up. Backhoes are not good for digging up trees that have to be handled carefully.

I could be wrong but if he's planning to grow Christmas trees they won't be going in with a 3' auger. They usually would be tiny saplings about 6" tall planted with a tree-planting shovel. A tiller might be useful depending on soil. They'd presumably be removed with a chainsaw, maybe backhoe to take out stumps.

 

[Diamondpilot]

From my last post: "As long as all other aspects are the same, transmission, tires, weight, etc. the sticker on the hood or the fact that it's Chinese made, or African made for that matter, makes no difference." Didn't you read that? Given all those aspects are the same, you think just because a tractor is made by Jimna, that it is more powerful? What about a gear driven Kubota, Deere, NH of the same weight? Wouldn't they be just as powerful? Please explain why a Jimna 28HP gear tractor of the same weight is more powerful than a different brand of the same weight?

I thought the "my tractor is better than your tractor" stuff wasn't allowed here. This doesn't seem like the topic, time or place for Jimna talk anyway.

Has nothing to do with my tractor is better than yours. I am not that nieve to thing one 28HP tractor is magically making more power than another 28HP tractor. That being said Jinma rates at a 12 hour average, not peak like so many others. Hince, my 28Hp tractor turned 31 peak PTO hp on the dyno at my dealer. Look at any other 28ish HP tractor that is made today and they are 1000# lighter. That is my point and many major brands have gone away totally from gear drive. Lack of weight and loss of power due to hydro tranny. That was my whole point.

Chris

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Has nothing to do with my tractor is better than yours. I am not that nieve to thing one 28HP tractor is magically making more power than another 28HP tractor. That being said Jinma rates at a 12 hour average, not peak like so many others. Hince, my 28Hp tractor turned 31 peak PTO hp on the dyno at my dealer. Look at any other 28ish HP tractor that is made today and they are 1000# lighter. That is my point and many major brands have gone away totally from gear drive. Lack of weight and loss of power due to hydro tranny. That was my whole point.

Chris

I'm looking at my owners manual, and the gross weight on a Mahindra 2815HST is not to exceed 5070lbs. And if I remember correctly from past posts, they also normally have a few more HP than they are rated at. I think that somewhere you have said that yours weighs 5000-5500lbs with ballast? I think that you may have made a bold statement without actually knowing the weights of all the OTHER tractors out there. But then I very well could be wrong too.

Oh, and since this is way off from the original post, maybe if this is continued, a new thread should be started.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I'm looking at my owners manual, and the gross weight on a Mahindra 2815HST is not to exceed 5070lbs. And if I remember correctly from past posts, they also normally have a few more HP than they are rated at. I think that somewhere you have said that yours weighs 5000-5500lbs with ballast? I think that you may have made a bold statement without actually knowing the weights of all the OTHER tractors out there. But then I very well could be wrong too.

Oh, and since this is way off from the original post, maybe if this is continued, a new thread should be started.

You are correct, the max weight is 5070#. The tractor itself only weighs 2458#.

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I am by no means saying Jinma is the best. Its far from it. When I bought this tractor I tried out a NH, JD, Case, MF, Branson, Century, Montana, ect. The Jinma was what I wanted. Something good at pulling. Its just a brute of a tractor with great pulling power and is easy to operate and maintain. They are dead simple and tough as nails. HP for HP I have not seen anything that will out work them. Fit and finish, creature comforts, ect are not their strong suit.

Chris

 

[Builder]

Has nothing to do with my tractor is better than yours.
Chris

I am by no means saying Jinma is the best.

Oh really?

I will put a Jinma 284 up against any current production 28Hp tractor. It will flat drag it around.

Sure sounds like someone saying their tractor is the best to me!

 

[Hematite]

Oh really?



Sure sounds like someone saying their tractor is the best to me!

Yeah, it sure sounded that way to me as well.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Saying it would drag around is not saying its the best. I am saying HP for HP there is nothing on the market that I have seen that can out pull it.

Chris

 

[Builder]

I could be wrong but if he's planning to grow Christmas trees they won't be going in with a 3' auger. They usually would be tiny saplings about 6" tall planted with a tree-planting shovel. A tiller might be useful depending on soil. They'd presumably be removed with a chainsaw, maybe backhoe to take out stumps.

I was thinking he was planting "Christmas Tree" sized pines (5-6') with balled bases around his property for privacy. I usually plant them with a Danuser digger and a 3' tree auger.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Diamondpilot, how much does your Jinma weigh, no ballast, no loader, just plain basic tractor?

 

[Builder]

Saying it would drag around is not saying its the best. I am saying HP for HP there is nothing on the market that I have seen that can out pull it.

Chris

Seems to me you have a way of insisting everything you own is the best.

 

[Lt CHEG]

I was thinking he was planting "Christmas Tree" sized pines (5-6') with balled bases around his property for privacy. I usually plant them with a Danuser digger and a 3' tree auger.

I'm sorry, I should have been more specific. I'll likely be planting a variety of Christmas trees of various ages. Mostly, however I'll be planting babies with a shovel, by hand for harvest in a couple years. I figure I'll have a couple of rows of trees around the property and I'll plant new trees in different rows every year so that in a few years I'll be able to harvest Christmas trees every year while still having at least one row of trees maintained for privacy. Also I figured that the backhoe would come in handy for removing stumps. As much as I like to do things to the point of overkill, even I couldn't justify a backhoe for planting trees of the size that I intend to be primarily planting. I think that a CUT mounted backhoe could very well be THE right tool for this task of removing stumps in this application though along with some of the other potential uses I had in mind.

 

[Builder]

UGH! All I seem to be doing is removing stumps with my backhoe lately. They do work great for that application.