New Holland vs Napa filters

[brin]

You are so right...good point...so what is the answer ? Why is one OK and not the other ?

 

[dave1949]

Just a passing thought, but isn't it interesting how few of us give a second thought to using "oem" oil filters on your trucks and cars that, in some cases, are as expensive or more expensive than our tractors? I have oem's on my Kubota right now. But, I think myself a wee bit double minded. I have NEVER used a genuine Honda filter on my wife's car, for example. It was twice the price of my small tractor.

Although, on my Ford truck, it always gets a Motorcraft oil and Motorcraft filter. Just because Wally's sells 'em.

Good observation.
Dave.

 

[Opti-Mist]

curious...Do cnh warranties specify only oem filters and oil?


soundguy

No, but if the failure was due to a CNH part that failed as in the original post, it would have been a warranty repair.

 

[Soundguy]

No, but if the failure was due to a CNH part that failed as in the original post, it would have been a warranty repair.

Would it? Do we know that for a certainity? I would guess that a warranty claim would only be honored if the machine was in warranty. I doubt a machine out of warranty would get a second look by a dealer even if you could prove a cnh filter caused a failure.

that said.. I try to use cnh filters on my machines.. there just isn't enough cost difference to hunt down a replacement. the oil filter prices on my diesels vs cnh and napa are a few bucks... and heck.. i never even found an aftermarket for the gallon paint can sized hyd filter that lives under the floorbaord of my new holland unit..

soundguy

 

[RickB]

You are so right...good point...so what is the answer ? Why is one OK and not the other ?

I buy genuine Delco oil filters for my pickup. Less than $5 at the GMC dealership. How much is a Fram going to save me? $0.0003 per mile. I'm just not that desperate to save.

 

[Solo]

I recently changed all the filters with NH filters and had a serious arguement with my father-in-law that we should use NH filters only after doing research online. He insists Napa is the same but i have no leg to stand on since i can't find any numbers to compare them. anyone have some numbers for me just to save face?

I would guess that if you bought the filters yourself your FIL wouldn't argue with that.

Solo

 

[Turbys_1700]

I purchased a Wix oil and fuel filter from Auto Zone this year for my 1720 after I could not get one from my local dealer who was shutting down. No problems at all. I prefer New Holland filters but don't want to travel 35 miles to the nearest dealer to get one. The only other option is to order on-line but I'm always pressed for time.

I don't know who make those filters for New Holland. I personally like Wix and have used them for years. I would guess that anyone having a catastrophic engine failure due to a filter failure would have a long protracted time in getting any restitution from a filter manufacturer. I would also guess that the number of those cases where the filter actually failed are very small and most would be due to improper tightening of the filter.

Just my take.

 

[Hoosier Hay Man]

Inteteresting a NAPA filter would be less expensive than OEM. I know in my area I can buy filters for my AG tractors at the dealer for my JD4430 and IH1466 cheaper than NAPA. I was shocked when I compared. Even my old JD 50 is less expensive.

Also, I know Deere dealers handle aftermarket filters for most any brand out there and are competive.
I still get my IH filters at the CaseIH dealer though. Gives me a chance to look over his lot over for any nice used equipment that came in.
Always more fun to visit a tractor dealer than an auto parts store.

I would say NAPA has as good as filters as anyone though, not sure why they are more exoensive than OEM in my area?

Main thing is to change your oil regulary and filters. Most major after market brands are as good (if not an oem supplier anyway) as the OEM.

 

[pvhogie]

thanks to everyones responses. Yes we own the tractor together, yes I... bought the NH filters. I do use Napa for almost everything else that i own including my F-250 diesel and my Harley. My father-in-law is a local mechanic at his home garage and uses nothing but Napa as well.

 

[MessickFarmEqu]

Would it? Do we know that for a certainity? I would guess that a warranty claim would only be honored if the machine was in warranty.

It was in warrenty. Yea, if it was a CNH filter it would have been covered. Its one of those pass the buck situations. If they can show a failure happened because of another companies product they sure as heck are not going to pay for it.


My issue with other filters it not quality, as I am sure most out there are fine, its that many of the filters cross-referenced to tractors are not off-road, industrial use filters. The needs of a mini-van and a tractor are very different and I can't see one filter being totally right for both applications.