skidding a REALLY big log

   / skidding a REALLY big log #31  
I certainly want to see SOME regulation of the lumber industry. I have
seen close-up the devastation left behind by logging....AND by forest fires.

Unfortunately, regulation of logging impacts those who just want to
protect their homesteads from wildfires.

Well, that's the sensible but missing middle ground. You folks have a real issue with fires, we can only see the news clips and I'm sure that doesn't compare at all to seeing it in person. Anything scary on video taken from a mile away is REALLY scary.

We are on the same path with harvest regulations. If you want to sell to most mills, it will really help to have the sustainable forest certified harvest. Plus, we need an approved harvest plan for anything over a couple of acres. To get that, you need to hire a certified forester who draws up a management plan. Oddly enough, here where large forest fires are pretty rare - about non-existant, we are encouraged to keep trees away from our buildings, etc.

They watch shoreline zone harvests here like a hawk. There is a formula you need to comply with that specifies the remaining tree basal area that must be left intact even to improve your view of the lake/river/stream. It all makes some sense, but I agree, it usually gets carried to an extreme and feeds on itself.

Maine collects alot of property tax on waterfront homes, they protect that income stream :)
Dave.
 
   / skidding a REALLY big log #32  
DFKrug; That's a shame, if a tree has fallen and there is good timber in it then it should be allowed to be milled. I understand about bad loggers/logging going on, but 2 wrongs don't make a right. Too many stupid laws is just as bad{if not worse} as no laws. Regulate this, regulate that, mean while nothing is helping, laws, laws, laws but not a lick of common sense :( .
 
   / skidding a REALLY big log
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#33  
That's a shame, if a tree has fallen and there is good timber in it then it should be allowed to be milled.

OK, since you mention it, here is the real irony:

I am allowed to cut, according to my zoning in this county, up to 10%
of all of my large trees, and I CAN let them rot, or burn them, or haul
them to the dump. What I can NOT do is SELL them to a licensed sawmill.
What THAT means is no pro logger will cut them and take them to the
mill without a permit from the state. So you can't economically cut them
if you can not sell them to a mill. Make sense?
 
   / skidding a REALLY big log #34  
OK, since you mention it, here is the real irony:

I am allowed to cut, according to my zoning in this county, up to 10%
of all of my large trees, and I CAN let them rot, or burn them, or haul
them to the dump. What I can NOT do is SELL them to a licensed sawmill.
What THAT means is no pro logger will cut them and take them to the
mill without a permit from the state. So you can't economically cut them
if you can not sell them to a mill. Make sense?

I could maybe see timber lobbyest behind that rule. The argument would be they don't want to compete with no permit wood cuts as they would be at an economic disadvantage. Other than that, no clue.

It is a shame it is very difficult to sell small amounts of logs. There are a few buyers around here that offer roadside pickup for a truck load of logs. They have a grapple arm on the truck. But for less than a decent load, nobody can afford to run around picking up a tree here and there.
Dave.
 
   / skidding a REALLY big log #35  
I second the SWING MILL idea on these large logs like this that are in inaccessible areas. the swing mills can cut pretty good lumber quickly but they are not cheap either. maybe a nitch market for people/someone who owns one to cut/mill for property owners. You can probably look locally for a swing mill owner, check at the Forestry Forum, and maybe even local want ads. or craigslist. craigslist: california classifieds for jobs, apartments, personals, for sale, services, community, and events not sure what city is close to you (I lived in CA for 2 years in Edwards AFB, (only got up north once to the redwood/sequoia nat forest back in 1992.) trees i wont forget that is for sure....

Mark
 
   / skidding a REALLY big log #36  
I am allowed to cut, according to my zoning in this county, up to 10%
of all of my large trees, and I CAN let them rot, or burn them, or haul
them to the dump. What I can NOT do is SELL them to a licensed sawmill.
Make sense?

Un-freaking beleivable. :mad:
 
   / skidding a REALLY big log #37  
krug;

Couldn't use that CAT in your avatar to tackle the tree? That is one monster log. I thought I had some whoppers up the street in WA state.....
 

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   / skidding a REALLY big log #38  
OK, since you mention it, here is the real irony:

I am allowed to cut, according to my zoning in this county, up to 10%
of all of my large trees, and I CAN let them rot, or burn them, or haul
them to the dump. What I can NOT do is SELL them to a licensed sawmill.
What THAT means is no pro logger will cut them and take them to the
mill without a permit from the state. So you can't economically cut them
if you can not sell them to a mill. Make sense?

Could you "give" the log to the mill (not the logger) for free, they can come out and get it, then they could owe you a "favor" in the future?
 
   / skidding a REALLY big log #39  
That tree is awesome!
Your local forester should be able to find someone to help take it off your hands.
I don't know about any $$ but I would be surprised if there wasn't someone local.
Or try both Forestryforum and Arboristsite if you want to find someone maybe reliable. Versus craigslist bag of nuts.
 
   / skidding a REALLY big log #40  
That tree is awesome!
Your local forester should be able to find someone to help take it off your hands.
I don't know about any $$ but I would be surprised if there wasn't someone local.
Or try both Forestryforum and Arboristsite if you want to find someone maybe reliable. Versus craigslist bag of nuts.

Newbury, I found your statement funny, in as much as there is just as many nuts on any given forum as there might be on craigslist...generally speaking
 

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