shop heat

   / shop heat #32  
I'm looking for suggestions/input as to heat for a workshop. The shop is 24' x 28' and well insulated including an insulated garage door. I use the shop a couple hours a night a couple of times a week and usually a few hours on the weekend. I'm in North MS so temps in the 20's - 30's are our normal lows with occasional teens and seldom single digits. I was considering one of the electric edenpure heaters (about $400), a cheap walmart electric heater ($70), or maybe a propane heater ($?) using a small tank. Any input would be appreciated. By the way this a tractor related project because the tractor is kept and serviced in the shop.

I may as well throw in my 2 cents here. I have been in the HVAC distribution business for 40 years. I don't think there is any 1 'right' answer for you. Here in CT the winters are a bit different than MS :)

I am a fan of propane furnaces. We do sell the Modine Hot dawg. Often times we get 90% efficient furnaces come back because the sheet metal is damaged. We clearance them for a few hundred $$$. You might try calling some local distributors to see what they may want to unload. The advantage of the 90% units is they vent with PVC pipe (usually 2 inch). They can be controlled by an inexpensive programmable thermostat or just left at a low setting. The pick up time should be much faster than electric.

My son is just starting a 40X60 garage at his new house in Maryland. I am watching our own clearance area for a furnace right now. The units can be mounted to a wall support 6-8 feet off the floor (gasoline fumes are heavier than air). Because they are made to connect to a ducted system the blowers on a furnace can throw air a lot further than a unit heat or electric unit.
 
   / shop heat #33  
I have been all over SC and NC.You can't escape those things.I live on the SC/NC state line.

Well, there you go ruining my memories. :(
I saw mosquitos mean enough to make a grown man run somewhere on the NC/SC coast at a KOA campground. They rose in squadrons out of these shrubby trees not far from the beach around dusk. It was too hot to cover up and too bloody not to. :eek:
I don't recall any of that up off the plateau.
Dave.
 
   / shop heat #34  
Well, there you go ruining my memories. :(
I saw mosquitos mean enough to make a grown man run somewhere on the NC/SC coast at a KOA campground. They rose in squadrons out of these shrubby trees not far from the beach around dusk. It was too hot to cover up and too bloody not to. :eek:
I don't recall any of that up off the plateau.
Dave.

:( Sorry.

I live around quite a few rivers,ponds, and lakes,so we have the mosquito swarms.
 
   / shop heat #35  
The Mr. Heater models that mount directly to the top of a 20 lb cylinder are a good choice for portable directable radiant heat. Run times are good, 30 - 50 hours on the single head model.

If you need additional light, a $26 1000 watt halogen work light is a good supplement.

Just got the middle sized one today at TSC for $69.00 and looking foward to using it in the Iron Hill Shed, and on those occasions (why we got it today, no power due to the snow storm).

So, got me one! MY BUDDY has two (the Little Buddy and My Buddy), bought his dad the big one (Big Buddy I think it's called) for Xmas.

I was gonna get me a used woodburner for the shed but this'll be better since it's small and rated for 9000 BTU and can hang it on the wall!
 
   / shop heat #36  
This is what I use, I love it. I run it for 5-10 minutes and the two car garage is like a sauna, I run it very low and keeps the garage very warm, even up here in NH where it gets very cold, zero the other day.

It is brutally simple, runs a long time on a 20 gallon tank and give off very little odor.

I run the hose under the garage door so that the tank is outside.

At the end of the season, I curl up the hose and stick the heater on the shelf and forget about it. ZERO maintenance and it is totally portable.

I've used for 2-3 years now and never a problem.

No to mention super inexpensive. Like you I'm in the garage 2-3 times per week.

My brother uses propane to get chill out and then electric, single car garage though and takes a big electric heater to keep up.

With 100K BTU or whatever it is mine puts out I've got enough HP to heat up no problem.

Joel
 
   / shop heat #37  
Yes, that is indeed alot of money to invest in a garage heater, especially when it would only be needed occasionally. I think I would prefer to find one of the used mobile home furnaces for a few hundred bucks.

Most home furnaces are either upflow or downflow by design, so if you look for a downflow model this will accomplish the same thing as the mobile home heater. A brand new 80% efficient 50 to 75,000 btu furnace sells for about
$500 wholesale.
 
   / shop heat #38  
Stay away from wood heat in garage with vechiles stored in them as most insurnace companies will not insure them if they know about them. IE if the vechile gets fuel leak you can't shut off the fire.
 
   / shop heat #39  
I use a Reddy heater, it can run on just about anything:D I can use diesel or heating oil, JP-8 etc. Some people have burned used transmission fluid in them with out any problems. The old Reddy heater site is down or I would give you the official list of what they can burn.


This list sound about right? I'm running mine of heating oil now. I have burned kerosene and diesel.


DESA R40 PORTABLE FORCED AIR HEATER 115V

They are forced air so you don't actually need a ton of BTU. Also since its forced you can always point it at you while working if the shop is still cold. I have a 70k BTU unit and no insulation what so ever. Only problem is it gets to warm and I have to turn the thermostat down. This has to be the best heater I have ever owned hands down.

I agree, when you need heat fast the Dessa salamander heaters can't be beat. I have a 160,000 a 55,000 and a 35,000. The 35,000 is all you need in a 2 car garage in a southern climate. With the remote mounted thermostat it is a joy to use. The smaller 35's and 40's are much quieter than the larger units.
The 160,000 BTU heater will take an insulated 2 car garage from -20 to + 90 in about 15 minutes. I use off road diesel in mine, I always have a couple of cans around for the tractor.:D:D:D
 
   / shop heat #40  
I feel for you guys up north and having to run 100K BTU units to heat a garage. A few weeks ago, it was 25F in Bismark Ark and I was working in my shop (30 x30) and it has no heat. I rummaged around in some packed up storage boxes and found a 1500 watt ceramic heater and plugged it in. In an hour or so, I was in a sweat. My shop is well insulated with insulated doors as well so it holds the heat. A 50,000 BTU heater would be melting the paint on my tractor in 10 minutes. Since I am seldom home, I just turn off the water to the shop and drain everything down for winter, but when I get my new house build and move there permanently, I will probably just leave that little heater on all the time in winter to keep it warm inside as it is thermostat controlled and since it is ceramic it doesnt have glowing wires like other electric heaters so no chance of it setting something on fire. I used to use it in my 26 foot camper as sole heating source rather than fuss with the propane bottles and it kept it nice and warm so I am sure it will do well for the shop also at least as long as I keep all the doors closed.
 

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