Rear mounted loader?

[Tayook]

Hello!

We are in the market for a small utility tractor (40is HP). We have three jobs for this tractor.

1. Cleaning dry lot and loading into spreader
2. Plowing snow
3. Firewood

We were looking at getting one with a FEL, but all the bulk up front has us worried about maneuverability in the woods being hindered. I ran across a photo of a rear mounted loader but can not seem to find any information or pricing on them. We'd like to clean the dry lot every other month so it will not be used heavily, although I am sure we will find more stuff for it to do.

Does anyone have any suggestions on a rear mounted loader or do you think we should stick with the FEl?

 

[Matt_Jr]

There are 3 point dirt scoops, but I'd really consider trying to make a front end loader work. Here's a 3 point dirt scoop link:
Northern Industrial 3-Pt. Dirt Scoop | Scoops | Northern Tool + Equipment

Is that what you're talking about?

 

[deerhunterf350]

I would rather have a conventional FEL on the front of the Tractor. When navigating thru woods you will be able to see what is coming, and be able to miss obstacles. Once you have driven a unit with a FEL you will soon know when to turn to miss trees. The "BULK" that you referred to, will soon become a non issue, but will take some seat time.

With a rear mounted FEL , it will have a "SWING" effect , if you turn too short the rear will swing out and clip a tree that you just pased. It seems that you would have a sore neck from constantly turning back and fourth to make sure that you are going to clear what is behind you with the FEL.



Post some PICS of the rear mount FEL that you had in mind.

 

[Tayook]

What I saw had hydro that allowed the bucket to be raised and dumped. I am thinking maybe at least four feet of verticle lift to get the manure into the spreader.

The FEL is the way we wanted to go, but the added length in the front is going to hinder us in the woods. Also, at some point in time we may do some square baling with it, will the added wieght of the FEL will take a toll on the tractor along with the haying equip?

We have a budget of under $3K for the tractor.

 

[Tayook]

The loader will be used in the dry lots for manure removal, not intending on using it in the woods. Althought I am sure we could find something to do in the woods with it.

 

[Tayook]

Something like this. I do not know much about them, just something I found while searching for FEL.

 

[Matt_Jr]

I've never seen one of those. Sweet!

 

[deerhunterf350]

Has any of the units you looked at had "Quick Attach" removable FEL's ??

 

[Skaning]

A FEL can be used to plow snow, but it is probably the least efficient way. You will get a back blade for that job first time you try to do the whole thing with the FEL. Use the back blade to plow, then the FEL to make holes as needed in the piles. I've had one on my little Massey 205 since I got it and couldn't be happier.

In the woods hauling firewood, should not be an issue on fairly level ground. A grapple attached to the bucket would be useful just to keep the contents contained.

 

[Tayook]

No, most in our price range are the older mammoth FEL's that have all kinds of rigging or a trip bucket. I think the price is more of an issue than manurverablity. I just can not seem to find any pricing info on a rear mounted loader.

 

[Tayook]

CadPlans Corporation - Where you can find designs, tips and order information to build your own backhoes, diggers and MORE!

This explains what I want, but they are just selling the plans to build your own?

 

[JB4310]

We have a budget of under $3K for the tractor.

Is this really 3K? if so I think it is totally unrealistic to be "in the market" for such a rare animal. If you can find any 40HP machine with a loader for 3 grand, you better be a good mechanic, cause it wont be running.

Not to be rude or discourage you but that is not enough money to get anything remotely reliable.

I made an attachment that allows me to put a loader bucket on the 3pt, but it's not a rear loader, just a bucket carrier.
This bucket cost $1,000 all by itself.

JB

 

[Tayook]

Yes I mean $3K.

We are in a very rural part of norther PA and old ford/case/international/massyfurg/ tractors around 40 hp are pretty easy to come by for around 2-3K.

They are not show pieces, they are old beat up tractors that do good farm work.

That is why I was pursueing the rear mounted loader, I assume they are less expensive. I have also found old loader buckets for a couple hundred $$?

 

[JB4310]

Yes I mean $3K.

We are in a very rural part of norther PA and old ford/case/international/massyfurg/ tractors around 40 hp are pretty easy to come by for around 2-3K.

They are not show pieces, they are old beat up tractors that do good farm work.

That is why I was pursueing the rear mounted loader, I assume they are less expensive. I have also found old loader buckets for a couple hundred $$?

Oh yeah you can get a great deal on 2 wheel drive tractors, maybe better now than any time in the past, due to the fact that everyone thinks they need 4X4, 2 wheel drives are selling for far less than they are worth.

Being in such a rural area isn't a benefit though, looking for a good deal on a used tractor. First off those machines will have seen much more work and maybe not as many people out buying brand new machines looking to replace them.

If you could expand your search to the more built up areas, that's where you'll find deals, the hobby owner that just dropped 30 grand on a new "toy" and needs to make room in his heated garage, so he's getting rid of his old machine that may not of seen much action.

The loader is still gonna be a problem, harder to find a decent machine with a loader. For sure it wont be easily removable if it's a front loader. and I doubt you'll find that rear loader on a tractor that you like, that's just to rare.

Have to get the tractor first and work on getting that rear 3pt loader later. if that one shown in the plans is what your looking for then you might have to go that route, and have someone build it for you. but that's gonna bust your budget

Good luck, JB.

 

[schmism]

New holland TV140

 

[DrewL]

If the loader is on the front or on the rear, the tractor will be the same length not removing the problem of manueverability. As stated earlier, I would rather have it on the front so you can see what is going on without turning around.

 

[Tayook]

With the recent flood of gas leases a lot of career farmers have bought themselves new "toys" and are selling their old workhorses. It is crazy (in a good way) to see some of these people who have farmed thier whole lives with second had equipment out in the fields with brand new shinny New Hollands.

I will focus on getting the tractor first, and any info on the rear mounted loaders is greatly apprciated!!

 

[JB4310]

This is what your looking for, looks pretty nice and can be adapted to front use also.

3 point linkage rear loader

3 point linkage rear end-loader

jb.

 

[Tayook]

lol, finally it is a reality! Looks like a trip bucket?

I found two others, still no prices on them. I actually found them in the archives of this board!

I like this one, still haven't found a price on it though. Contacted the company. It is gravity dumped though, not sure how I like that...
Front-End Loaders by Westendorf: loader for tractor, shade canopy, wagons, manure & landscaping equipment.

This one is a bit overkill for our purposes, but still a neat idea.
Agkrane - The Kranes - The EXB-060 KRANE

 

[Tongy]

I have one of those 3pt dump buckets and I used it a lot to move dirt around. It is really handy if thats all you have, and cheap. Think I got mine at a farm sale.
I would think a regular bucket on the 3pt would be a real pain after awhile, always having to look backward. But, your budget is the issue here. Have you tried looking at Craigs List? I would think it would be better to try and fine a tractor with a loader then to try to find a loader later. You often have more outlay and the problems of matching up the loader to the tractor.
Have you tried looking at TractorHouse.com ?