Feb 2010 New Pickup Sales

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Update 1: February 2010 Top 10 Year-to-Date Pickup Truck Sales - PickupTrucks.com News

 

[JB4310]

Yup, there was something on the news tonight about Ford sales being so much better than everyone else, cars and trucks.

What's changed???

JB.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I figured GM would be down but never figured Dodge was that bad off. I had heard they were in trouble but they are really getting killed.

I am really surprised the imports are doing so well. I figured the Toyota thing would kill the import confidence.

Chris

 

[JB4310]

I dare to say that maybe we've seen the bottom of the great recession, at least in some areas. Dodge's numbers have always been lower than the other 2 but still can't figure why Ford would be going up when the other 2 domestics are flat or going down.

I say maybe we've seen the bottom cause just today I was at the Dodge dealer for parts, and as soon as I walked in the door, it was immediately apparent something was very different from what I've seen there in the last year--- People, many of them, in all departments. It really surprised me.

JB.

 

[Diamondpilot]

I dare to say that maybe we've seen the bottom of the great recession, at least in some areas. Dodge's numbers have always been lower than the other 2 but still can't figure why Ford would be going up when the other 2 domestics are flat or going down.

I say maybe we've seen the bottom cause just today I was at the Dodge dealer for parts, and as soon as I walked in the door, it was immediately apparent something was very different from what I've seen there in the last year--- People, many of them, in all departments. It really surprised me.

JB.

Ford is doing well for one reason only. They did not take a bail out. Plain and simple. I know dozens of loyal GM and Chrysler customers that will never buy another for that simple reason, me included.

If I could sell my last remaining GM I would. I have had it list for 2 months now with only crazy low ball offers. You can not sell them around here. Too many folks lost GM jobs so there is much bad blood.

I have heard but not confirmed that some dealers are flat refusing to take GM products on trade due to the difficulties in selling them.

As far as the recession I do not think we have seen the bottom. I predict it will be 2-3 years to come out of it hopefully with a change in command.

Chris

 

[timswi]

Ford is doing well for one reason only. They did not take a bail out. Plain and simple. I know dozens of loyal GM and Chrysler customers that will never buy another for that simple reason, me included.

If I could sell my last remaining GM I would. I have had it list for 2 months now with only crazy low ball offers. You can not sell them around here. Too many folks lost GM jobs so there is much bad blood.

I have heard but not confirmed that some dealers are flat refusing to take GM products on trade due to the difficulties in selling them.

As far as the recession I do not think we have seen the bottom. I predict it will be 2-3 years to come out of it hopefully with a change in command.

Chris

GM's sell like crazy around here. There are Escalades, Tahoes, Yukons, Silverados and GMC's everywhere you look. I do agree about the bailouts, that was over the top. Bankruptcy and reorganization would have been preferable. I don't like private companies owned by the Feds, that's not what we're supposed to be about. Hopefully this is temporary.

But remember that Ford mortgaged itself to the hilt just prior to the credit disaster. They even collateralized the blue oval logo. If they wouldn't have gotten lucky with the timing of that leverage move, they'd be in the same boat as GM. Their product mix was/is no different.

Chrysler is a whole other story. They need Iocca back. K-car anyone?

 

[JB4310]

Ford is doing well for one reason only. They did not take a bail out. Plain and simple. I know dozens of loyal GM and Chrysler customers that will never buy another for that simple reason, me included.

If I could sell my last remaining GM I would. I have had it list for 2 months now with only crazy low ball offers. You can not sell them around here. Too many folks lost GM jobs so there is much bad blood.

I have heard but not confirmed that some dealers are flat refusing to take GM products on trade due to the difficulties in selling them.

As far as the recession I do not think we have seen the bottom. I predict it will be 2-3 years to come out of it hopefully with a change in command.

Chris

OK the fact that Ford didn't take the bail out money puts them in a league of their own, but it's to much a stretch of the imagination for me to believe people are so fiscally and socially conscientious that they are punishing the other big 2 with their wallets for needing aid. I'm sure their is some degree of that mindset going on, but not for that "one reason only"
The financial institutions also got bail outs and I don't see people boycotting banks.

As far as the economy goes I agree it's gonna be a long time before things really turn around, there's just been to much damage. I'm just hoping we're at the bottom at not still sinking.

JB.

 

[Diamondpilot]

OK the fact that Ford didn't take the bail out money puts them in a league of their own, but it's to much a stretch of the imagination for me to believe people are so fiscally and socially conscientious that they are punishing the other big 2 with their wallets for needing aid. I'm sure their is some degree of that mindset going on, but not for that "one reason only"
The financial institutions also got bail outs and I don't see people boycotting banks.

JB.

I guess its where you live. I am in the Auto Belt. When people loose jobs, benefits, ect they fight back with $$$$. They are not going to throw it the way of the companies who took everything they had away.

My areas largest town was 110,000 in the mid 90's. Its just around 55,000 today. I live in a small 2,000 population town just 5 miles from it. At one time nearly 1 in 3 worked for GM. Today there is not one single GM job left. Everyone had a father, brother, or mother who worked for GM. Its bad now. All the mom and pops could not survive and now close the doors and even just today Old Navy announced they were closing. We can not keep open basic restaurants like Ryans Buffet and Taco Bell. We have lost over 20 chain restaurants since last summer topping the list with Cheese Burger in Paradise, Dairy Queen, Long Johns, Boston Market, and O'Charlies.

The Chevy, Jeep, and Dodge dealer closed up in the last 2 years. We still have a Chevy dealer in the next town over but no Dodge. The Toyota, Nissan, 2 Fords, Hyundai, ect are doing fine.

Its not good in the midwest. I travel all over for my job and things are very different in other places. I just spent 3 days in Windsor Locks CT early last week before the weather hit. Today I am in Seattle and tomorrow off to Fresno. The thing I noticed today in Seattle while spending 6 hours downtown near the Space Needle was the amount of Subaru's, VW's, Audi's, ect. Very few domestics.

Chris

 

[timswi]

Its not good in the midwest. I travel all over for my job and things are very different in other places. I just spent 3 days in Windsor Locks CT early last week before the weather hit. Today I am in Seattle and tomorrow off to Fresno. The thing I noticed today in Seattle while spending 6 hours downtown near the Space Needle was the amount of Subaru's, VW's, Audi's, ect. Very few domestics.

What would you expect in Seattle?...It's all tofu, coffee and greenies..I'd be far more surprised if you actually saw any car bigger than a beer can out there.

 

[Diamondpilot]

What would you expect in Seattle?...It's all tofu, coffee and greenies..I'd be far more surprised if you actually saw any car bigger than a beer can out there.

I actually noted lots of Titan's, compared to Indiana, and a bunch of Hummers, Dodge/Cummins, F-350's, and F-150's all Pimped out with $5000 wheels. I was salivating. I did not see any stacks on the Diesels.

Not enough Red Necks I guess. I only wish I was staying though the 5th. Larry the Cable Guy and the rest of the crew are performing down town. I made the comment to my Co-Pilot that there would probable be a bunch of empty seats but in Indiana people would skip eating for a week to have enough money to see those guys.

Chris