Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor?

/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #1  

Lt CHEG

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So here's my situation. I've got a few people interested in paying me to do some brush hog work for them with my tractor. I also have friends and family that would have use for a little tractor help from time to time, so I'm thinking about buying a trailer to move my tractor. Also I'm thinking it would be nice if I had something to pick up a rental mini excavator for use during different phases of construction at my home sight.

So to pull this trailer, I have my 2009 Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew Cab Z71 with 5.3L V8 and the 6spd auto transmission. It's got a tow rating of 9,500 pounds. I don't plan on going any distance on highways, in fact most of the roads traveled would be 45 mph roads, so I don't mind losing a bit of performance if I'm right around the tow limit and maybe even a few pounds over. I also don't plan on towing with this setup all that often. I know it would be nicer to have a 3/4 ton diesel, but that is out of the question for several reasons, the first of which is the cost to upgrade and the most important is that my wife loves my current truck and the way it rides. There's no way that she would allow me to trade in my truck for a 3/4 ton that doesn't ride as smooth as my truck. Oh and about the longest distance that I'd have to tow is about 15 miles, and although some areas are a little hilly, we aren't talking about really mountainous terrain.

So, my tractor is a NH Boomer 3040, 4WD with factory cab and FEL. The tractor and FEL weighs in at approximately 5200 pounds according to the internet. The rear tires are loaded, about 550 pounds of rimguard in each tire. I have a 5 foot Bush Hog Squealer which weighs in at about 650 pounds. So let's say a total of about 7,000 pounds. Also the mini excavators that I would rent at any of the local rentals weigh in between 5,800 pounds to about 6,800 pounds.

So I can get a 18 foot car hauler which is rated for 9,990 pounds, with a payload of around 7,700 pounds. I like the idea of a car hauler with beaver tail for two reasons, the first of which is that it is a little lighter. The second reason is that there are a lot more of them that have the ramps which store under the trailer. I like this feature because I believe that perhaps a foot to a foot and a half (including the rear wheel) of the brush hog may hang over the back on an 18 foot trailer. I can get an equipment trailer with similar ratings including the ramps that stow underneath the trailer for about $1,000 more. The difference is that it is a few hundred pounds heavier and it will pretty much max out my tow rating.

So, please give me your opinions on what you all think I should look more closely at. I would love to be able to find a used trailer and save some money and there does seem to be more equipment trailers out there than car haulers. Most of them have the fold up ramps though. As always thanks in advance for everyone's input, I'll look forward to everyone's responses.
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #2  
ok.. your tow vehicle will pull a 16 or 18 foot trailer with no problem.. get one with electric brakes .. etc. brake controlers are cheap and easy to install if needed.

I use a wood deck car hauler for my tractors.. been using it 10ys now with no issues other than having to replace the wod once.. looks like in another few years might be doing it again..

soundguy
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor?
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ok.. your tow vehicle will pull a 16 or 18 foot trailer with no problem.. get one with electric brakes .. etc. brake controlers are cheap and easy to install if needed.

I use a wood deck car hauler for my tractors.. been using it 10ys now with no issues other than having to replace the wod once.. looks like in another few years might be doing it again..

soundguy

Oh, I've got the electric brake angle covered. All the trailers that I've looked at have them at both axles. I've also already installed a Tekonsha electric brake controller in my truck to be able to tow our 4 place snowmobile trailer with electric brakes. Sorry, I forgot to add that part.

I'm encouraged to here that the car hauler is working good for people. The trailer place where I called was trying to sell me towards the equipment trailer and I can understand where it would definitely be heavier duty. My biggest issues are for the distance I plan to tow, I don't think I'd need too heavy duty and I think I'd like to save weight where I can. Thanks for the input.
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #4  
I live in central florida, And I regularly haul tractors home.. My last 3 trips were NE georgia, w lousiana, and NW texas. that trip was about 2600m did it in about a 40hr round trip. I haul about 4000+ # usually on a haul. has a single brake axle out of the tandem. no issues yet.

soundguy

Oh, I've got the electric brake angle covered. All the trailers that I've looked at have them at both axles. I've also already installed a Tekonsha electric brake controller in my truck to be able to tow our 4 place snowmobile trailer with electric brakes. Sorry, I forgot to add that part.

I'm encouraged to here that the car hauler is working good for people. The trailer place where I called was trying to sell me towards the equipment trailer and I can understand where it would definitely be heavier duty. My biggest issues are for the distance I plan to tow, I don't think I'd need too heavy duty and I think I'd like to save weight where I can. Thanks for the input.
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #5  
Either trailer will suit you fine. Get what fits your needs the best.

Chris
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #7  
I'd suggest a GN no matter the type of trailer you get, they pull Sooooo much nicer than a BP trailer and the heavier the load the bigger the GN advantage is.
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #8  
You can't change the truck's ability to pull heavy weight without modifications. You can't change the tractors total weight as equipped for working. The trailer you wish to purchase then must be light enough to enable the truck to pull it and heavy enough to carry the load. A twin 5k axle car hauler will carry your load as well as a heavier equipment trailer and will be easier to handle and pull. Not to mention the money savings. It may also be lower and make it easier to load and off load that rotary cutter. I've seen those scrape the ground while being loaded on a steep trailer ramp. I have a 20 foot custom built equipment trailer for my stuff that I'm beginning to wish I hadn't bought. My Dodge 2500 pulls it fine, but it's big and it's heavy. A bit much for the average half ton pickup. I'm probably going to sell my equipment to a friend this September. He has a Jeep and a Nissan Frontier. The equipment will stay on his 140 acres in New Mexico, but the trailer will do him absolutely no good at all, it's too big.
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #9  
I'd suggest a GN no matter the type of trailer you get, they pull Sooooo much nicer than a BP trailer and the heavier the load the bigger the GN advantage is.

A gooseneck is great if the truck has the payload capacity to carry a large percentage of the load. Especially considering where the axles are located on most GN trailers. The weight, if moved forward on the trailer, is often somewhat evenly distributed between the trailer's axle and the trucks rear axle. With the limited rear GAWR of a half ton truck it can place some unwanted stress on those axles, wheels and tires.
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #10  
For me a car hauler would have more uses than an equipment trailer. I put 6' ramps on my equipment trailer so I could load cars without scraping.
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor?
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I'd suggest a GN no matter the type of trailer you get, they pull Sooooo much nicer than a BP trailer and the heavier the load the bigger the GN advantage is.

Actually a gooseneck is out. According to my owners manual GM does not recommend that my model truck be outfitted with any sort of 5th wheel hitch. My guess is that it's probably something to do with the shorter (5.8 foot instead of a normal 6.5 foot) bed.

It seems like there's more equipment trailers available used, so I may end up going with an equipment trailer if I can find a nice used one at a great price. If I do go new though, I'm strongly leaning towards the car hauler. Even if I hauled the tractor every week, the distances that I'm looking to travel are so short that I just don't see the trailer getting beat up all that much. Thanks to all for your input, and by all means please continue to add your advice, as I'm a definite newb in this area.
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #12  
I bought my PJ car hauler rated for 10k pounds to be towed with my old half ton chevy rated to tow 6500. Being a "car hauler" vs. "equipment trailer" means what? Nearest I can tell, they don't sell many deck over car haulers. Don't sweat the issue and find the GVWR you like.

I hate GN or 5th wheel trailers, you can't turn around a charp corner in the road without worrying about your trailer running into the ditch. They are much less maneuverable in tight areas and backing them up for long distances on a driveway is much harder.
 
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I hate GN or 5th wheel trailers, you can't turn around a charp corner in the road without worrying about your trailer running into the ditch. They are much less maneuverable in tight areas and backing them up for long distances on a driveway is much harder.

I'm not being arguementative, but my experience is the polar opposite. A 16' GN trailer will have a shorter overall length and will turn sharper because there is nothing to prevent a 90* (or more) turn as with the "V" portion on a BP type hitch which limits you to about 45* at most in a turn.

Because the C/L of the trailer axles is closer to the pivot point with a GN/5th than a BP, you tend to track more closely to the inside of a turn with a GN/5th. OTOH, when backing the pivot point of the trailer hitch IS the pivot point of the towing vehicle, so backing is easier because you don't tend to over-correct as badly. It does take a greater turn of the towing vehicle to move the direction of the trailer with a GN, to me it's easier this way but like most things that falls to personal preference.
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #14  
Being a "car hauler" vs. "equipment trailer" means what? Nearest I can tell, they don't sell many deck over car haulers.

I'm with you I bought my trailer used and have no idea if its considered an equipment trailer or car hauler. Really doesn't matter in that it works for me. To the OP I have an 18' trailer with fold up ramps. When I haul the tractor with FEL and RC. The RC overhangs slightly but I'm still able to fold up the ramps. I love the fold up ramps. Would not buy a trailer without fold ramps for my needs. The ramps remove easily if the need arises.
 
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A gooseneck is great if the truck has the payload capacity to carry a large percentage of the load. Especially considering where the axles are located on most GN trailers. The weight, if moved forward on the trailer, is often somewhat evenly distributed between the trailer's axle and the trucks rear axle. With the limited rear GAWR of a half ton truck it can place some unwanted stress on those axles, wheels and tires.

I personally wouldn't pull heavy equipment on a gn with a half ton. I have a gn adapter in my dodge half ton.. but that's for a horse trailer that, when loaded, weighs less than a 16' car hauler with a 30-40hp tractor on it..

soundguy
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #16  
I, also, tow with a 1/2 ton truck so the weight of the trailer was a major consideration since the tractor weight was not adjustable. I had a Load Trail car hauler 20' trailer custom built with 8 D rings and flip up torsion loaded ramps. I can tell you that after using it for a year, I know that I made a superb choice. 5 ton GVWR and wood deck ended up weighing about 1750 pounds.

I have the same tractor as you except with a BH. The trailer is low which makes it very easy to load and handles fantastic with the weight low. Coupler height is 17" which is the same as my travel trailer and I use the same Reese Dual Cam WD hitch because the ball weight is also the same as the TT at 800 lbs. I would never go with the under deck storage ramps because of their weight and they rust like crazy, not to mention the flip ups have built in stability stands. If you want more info about the rig, PM me.

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/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #17  
I like the slide under non-flip up ramps as they allow me to load things that are a little long and I don't have to worry about the ramps being in the way.
Spend $30 @AW direct and get some good wheel chocks to use every time you load and unload it will save your life someday and you will never know it. It best habit to get in no matter what trailer you use.
 
/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #18  
and for trailers without the ramp legs.. do carry some cribbing to prop up the back of the traielr so it don't squat and lift up onthe truck ball when you load / unload..

soundguy
 
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and for trailers without the ramp legs.. do carry some cribbing to prop up the back of the traielr so it don't squat and lift up onthe truck ball when you load / unload..

Nope; there are better methods!:thumbsup:
 

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/ Car hauler or Equipment Trailer for my Tractor? #20  
Nope; there are better methods!:thumbsup:

Egon, I really like the jack setup you have! Do the jacks swivel around, or do you have to crank them up each time you use them?

What weight rating do you have? And are they welded to the trailer, or bolted.

Sorry to bug you with a thousand questions, but it looks like you've already plowed that ground.

Jim
 

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