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Which precisely proves the point of why it is good to change Spring and Fall. DST works well in the summer and Standard Time works well in the winter.

"works well" is subjective at best. Your assertion falls on just a certain set of markers.

 

[jeffinsgf]

Its all over the net. look it up yourself. ...

OK, I did just that. The statistic of 5% increase in heart attacks in the three days following the Spring time change was seized on by the media with characteristic bulldog intensity. If you trace it back to its source, it is from a study in Sweden, of Swedish people. This is a country where the entire nation fits within one time zone. It is also a nation where in the dead of winter, in its most populated regions, they have about 6 hours of daylight. Yet the media have reported as if those results represent the effects of the time change on a country with a much less severe sunlight differential from summer to winter and one that spans 4 time zones. Yet, most didn't report that the same study found a nearly equal decrease in heart attacks at the Fall time change. I question whether a similar study would reveal the same statistics for the United States, and even if they did prove to be the same, when the two changes are taken together, it appears that as many people are saved in the Fall as are killed in the Spring.

 

[radioman]

Put me down as one of those who don't like DST. I really don't see the point anymore. No matter what shifted I worked in the past, it was always dark leaving, going to work during the fall/winter/spring. Most of us use electricty for light anyways if light or dark out. SO, nowadays there is NO point of DST. In the fall, I dread the fallback. In the spring, I can't wait for srping forward. Just a few days ago, my kids said, WOW! I am not used to seeing it so bright after dinner! I told em they now have more play time outside after dinner, no need to hurry before dinner. Do your homework first and then go outside and play!

So - I want to do away with DST. If you really need the DST, make it on first day of december, and beginning of march. Prove to me that the mental state will be better with DST.

 

[tallyho8]

Before I "retired" I liked DST in the summer because it didn't get dark until after 8:30 pm and I could do a lot more things outdoors. I disliked DST because I hate to go out for dinner before dark and if we waited until dark the restaurants were closed.

Since I "retired" I don't give a hoot because I don't look at the clock all day long anyway. I just get up and feed the horses after the sun comes up and feed them again before the sun goes down.

Life is good.............

 

[jeffinsgf]

... In the spring, I can't wait for srping forward. Just a few days ago, my kids said, WOW! I am not used to seeing it so bright after dinner! I told em they now have more play time outside after dinner, no need to hurry before dinner. Do your homework first and then go outside and play! ...

You just said that you don't like DST, but then made a compelling argument in favor of it. I don't understand.

 

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OK, I did just that. The statistic of 5% increase in heart attacks in the three days following the Spring time change was seized on by the media with characteristic bulldog intensity. If you trace it back to its source, it is from a study in Sweden, of Swedish people. This is a country where the entire nation fits within one time zone. It is also a nation where in the dead of winter, in its most populated regions, they have about 6 hours of daylight. Yet the media have reported as if those results represent the effects of the time change on a country with a much less severe sunlight differential from summer to winter and one that spans 4 time zones. Yet, most didn't report that the same study found a nearly equal decrease in heart attacks at the Fall time change. I question whether a similar study would reveal the same statistics for the United States, and even if they did prove to be the same, when the two changes are taken together, it appears that as many people are saved in the Fall as are killed in the Spring.

Ok Jeff
We obviously have different views. Each of us can utilize outside sources to justify our stances. When all is said and done, I really have to go by my own feelings and my seemingly lack of recovery for months after DST is foisted upon us. Also , my brother in law was killed 8 years ago by a person who fell asleep at the wheel at 6AM 3 days after DST and crossed into his lane. So , yes, I have a bone with it. Would my brother in law have been killed anyway, who knows. After all, how many people have been killed by drunk drivers or people texting for that matter. You wouldn't know unless you lived it. Would I rather not have a chainsaw in my hands while groggy when I was logging? you bet. So my assertions to DST are contrary to yours and I'm using a different set of markers. From what I do know of you, you are a nice man who got offensive which really had nothing to do with nothing, to bring home a point for which he apologized for. I'm good with that. What I get upset about with this, is that people often look at this one sided. There are many, many people who suffer with DST one way or another. If it really is doing something positive like saving energy (which is in question) then so be it. But if it is doing no such thing and only here for the whims and fancies of business,or individuals or politicians then that's just wrong in my mind.

 

[turbo36]

DST works well for me, after a long day at work it's nice to come home in the light. All you folks complaining about a change of an hour in your day probably have never worked rotating shifts. Try going from first to second to third shift every 90 days, makes an hour hardly worth arguing about.:laughing:

 

[jeffinsgf]

.... Also , my brother in law was killed 8 years ago by a person who fell asleep at the wheel at 6AM 3 days after DST and crossed into his lane. So , yes, I have a bone with it. Would my brother in law have been killed anyway, who knows. ...

I'm sorry for your loss and see how something like that could change your point of view. Whether it was caused by the time change or a coincidence is something no one will ever know.

 

[dmccarty]

I don't like the time change. Pick a dang time and leave it alone.

The idea that this saves money is bovine scat. The power companies and water utilities report resource usages when people get up regardless of the position of the sun. I bet that our house has more windows square footage than the vast majority of houses. The first thing we do in the morning is turn on the lights. The position of the sun in the sky does not determine if the lights are on or off.

Our old city house which had a whopping 4 windows was just the same. Get out of bed turn on the lights. The location of Mr. Sol in the sky was not a factor in turning on the lights.

Right now our kids are at the bus in the dark. Before the time change it was light out. If you want to keep the kids going to the school with light would it not be easier to just have them start a few minutes later instead of forcing most of the country to reset the clocks? And even with the time change, when I was a kid I was going to school in the dark anyway. I really don't get the idea that the time change keeps kids out of the dark.

I could see maybe back in the early 1900s that DST might have made sense when people did not have lighting like we do now but it makes no sense today.

Pick a time and leave it there.

Later,
Dan

 

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DST works well for me, after a long day at work it's nice to come home in the light. All you folks complaining about a change of an hour in your day probably have never worked rotating shifts. Try going from first to second to third shift every 90 days, makes an hour hardly worth arguing about.:laughing:

We are not talking about "an hour" but what the effects are as a result of when patterns are interrupted for a large group of people who do not work 3 shifts.