Big Pine Down

   / Big Pine Down #21  
I'm with Eddie, unless you have a use for the pine lumber

I dont know what lumber yard you buy your 2x4's from, but round hear all lumber is a pine product (or derivative such as SPF spruce,pine,fir)

so ya, unless you dont have a use for LUMBER then yes chop it up for firewood
 
   / Big Pine Down #22  
If considering making lumber investigate the cost first.

You should be able to find a site on the INTERNET that tells you how many board feet the tree will yield. A sawyer should be able to tell you what the cost will be. Then make a decision.:D

Myself, I'd use my home built chainsaw mill and spend enjoyable hours making lumber. The smell of pine shavings can make a persons day.:thumbsup:
 
   / Big Pine Down #23  
but back to your big arse pine tree... call in the local portable saw mill and have that sucker slabbed up into some lumber for something! to nice of a tree to go to firewood.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: You know your lumber.

That IMO wood definatly make some nice lumber. If when opened up it is real knotty then it would make great cabinets or some other type of furniture. WAAAAAAY to nice a chunk of wood to just throw to the curb{over a bank}. From what I can see and figure you'd end up with around 600BF of lumber {just a quess without being there}. I say you should still check with local{portable} millers or run a CL add.
 
   / Big Pine Down #24  
I dont know what lumber yard you buy your 2x4's from, but round hear all lumber is a pine product (or derivative such as SPF spruce,pine,fir)

Yep, same here unless one is wanting a specialty wood{hard wood of some type}.
 
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#25  
I have got a hundred and one uses for the lumber....I thought everyone always has use for lumber.?? Guess not.

Also, on using pine for firewood.....I can assure you, no cord dealer in Maine has ever delivered softwood AND I know of no one in this area that burns it as a main source of firewood. I don't want to get into an argument about it...it's just the cold hard truth about this area, for whatever reason. Kindling maybe, but Cedar is the preferred kindling from this guy.

I am going to try to find a sawyer in this area. Got a name last night as a matter of fact. I owe it to myself to find out the cost. Like someone said, I'd hate to see it hauled off just to rot.

Seems the "poll" is 50/50 here....plank it or burn it. Like I said, I have plenty of uses for the boards.

Thanks everyone...will post back what I find out.
 
   / Big Pine Down #26  
I believe you can contact Wood-Mizer and they will give you a list of their customers that do saw-mill work in your area.

I think what was meant by the "pine" lumber comment was that it would not be Pressure Treated. I would not have much use for pine unless it was P.T. The bugs would devistate it along with the weather. Everything that I would use it for would be exposed. The climate probably has much to do with it's useful value.

Good luck and let us know what you do with it.
 
   / Big Pine Down #27  
The question isn't whethere it's good wood, or if it would be nice to have the wood. The question is at what expense will it take to turn that log into usable lumber?

It's not just what the sawyer will charge for his service, but the time it will take to do this, and what type and quality of wood that he'll get from the tree?

While I have no doubt that there will be some great boards that come out of the tree, I also think that there will be a fair amount of junk.

Drying and warping are also part of the equation.

Figureing out how much time, out of pocket money and quality of material that you'll get from it, and comaring it to what you can buy at the store is the question. I think that it will be very hard to beat the price of store bought lumber. Add to this that if it's not stored properly, it will rot. If it sits for an extended period of time, it will rot or warp. How much of the wood will be used before it goes bad? How much room will it take to store that wood and is there a value at storing it compared to what that space could be used for other things?

I used to keep a fair amount of lumber on hand, but now I don't because of all the room it takes up, and how some of it will become twisted over time. You got to keep it stacked and bound to keep it in shape, and even then, some will twist on you.

Burn it and buy what you want, when you need it. You'll be money ahead and have more time on your hands to do what you enjoy. If you are like Egon, and just love cutting wood, then you'll be doing it already and not even asking about it. If you do allot of woodworking and building, then you wouldn't be asking this question either. But if this is something that you "think" you might want to try, or like to have, walk away. It will never happen, and you'll just be tripping over all that wood for the next decade. If you don't need it, don't spend the money to have it just because you think it might be a cheap way to get allot of wood. It's not that cheap, and it's not something that you need.

Burn it, or get rid of it, and move on with doing what you really like to do.

Eddie
 
   / Big Pine Down #28  
I did a little research before on the internet about creosote and hardwoods vs. softwoods. Creosote is condensation of unburned flammable particulates present in exhaust gases that go up the flue and chminney. The depositing of creosote is more dependent on the flue temperature than the wood type. If the flue is hot due to a hot burning fire the creosote will not deposit on the hot metal (or chimmney brick). If you burn a well dried softwood like pine it should not lead to any more creosote build-up than a hardwood. In fact, apparently burning very wet hardwoods could cause more build-up due to a "colder" fire. With this all being said, in my area people still want hardwoods to burn. We have lots of hickory and oak in southeastern PA so supply is not a problem. - Mike
 
   / Big Pine Down #29  
The question isn't whethere it's good wood, or if it would be nice to have the wood. The question is at what expense will it take to turn that log into usable lumber?

It's not just what the sawyer will charge for his service, but the time it will take to do this, and what type and quality of wood that he'll get from the tree?

While I have no doubt that there will be some great boards that come out of the tree, I also think that there will be a fair amount of junk.

Drying and warping are also part of the equation.

Figureing out how much time, out of pocket money and quality of material that you'll get from it, and comaring it to what you can buy at the store is the question. I think that it will be very hard to beat the price of store bought lumber. Add to this that if it's not stored properly, it will rot. If it sits for an extended period of time, it will rot or warp. How much of the wood will be used before it goes bad? How much room will it take to store that wood and is there a value at storing it compared to what that space could be used for other things?

I used to keep a fair amount of lumber on hand, but now I don't because of all the room it takes up, and how some of it will become twisted over time. You got to keep it stacked and bound to keep it in shape, and even then, some will twist on you.

Burn it and buy what you want, when you need it. You'll be money ahead and have more time on your hands to do what you enjoy. If you are like Egon, and just love cutting wood, then you'll be doing it already and not even asking about it. If you do allot of woodworking and building, then you wouldn't be asking this question either. But if this is something that you "think" you might want to try, or like to have, walk away. It will never happen, and you'll just be tripping over all that wood for the next decade. If you don't need it, don't spend the money to have it just because you think it might be a cheap way to get allot of wood. It's not that cheap, and it's not something that you need.

Burn it, or get rid of it, and move on with doing what you really like to do.

Eddie

Sorry EddieWalker, I do respect your opinions, but have to disagree with this one completely.

I own a small mill and have milled many board feet for myself and others over the years. I have seen issues with some boards but not worth complaining about. I have kept lumber stacked over winter up here{snow and rain country} with just a simple tarp thrown over, no binding or weight. The lumber is fine and had no problems/issues. I will gladly compare my lumber to ANY store bought garbage any day. I do occassionally need treated lumber and have a fit when I go to lowes or Home depot to pick it out. I unloaded a complete stack at lowes not so long ago just to find 3or 4 pieces of decent lumber.

Of course I am not there looking at this log, BUT from the pictures this log would definately be worth turning into lumber. At the very least he could offer it up for free{I'm sure someone would nab it}. It would be nice to see something like this go to good use. I also believe he stated he had 101 uses for the lumber:)
 
   / Big Pine Down #30  
I have got a hundred and one uses for the lumber....I thought everyone always has use for lumber.?? Guess not.

:thumbsup: Even when I'm sick and tired of seeing lumber and think I'm all done with it, another project pops up :D

Also, on using pine for firewood.....I can assure you, no cord dealer in Maine has ever delivered softwood AND I know of no one in this area that burns it as a main source of firewood. I don't want to get into an argument about it...it's just the cold hard truth about this area, for whatever reason. Kindling maybe, but Cedar is the preferred kindling from this guy.

Like I said I was just curious as to why not use it :confused: I was not trying to start and argument just wondering.

I am going to try to find a sawyer in this area. Got a name last night as a matter of fact. I owe it to myself to find out the cost. Like someone said, I'd hate to see it hauled off just to rot.

Seems the "poll" is 50/50 here....plank it or burn it. Like I said, I have plenty of uses for the boards.

Thanks everyone...will post back what I find out.

Glad to read your going to atleast try and turn it into something usefull. Like I said if I lived closer I'd help you out or even take it off your hands :):thumbsup:.
 

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