Loader Cracked loader on CK30HST

[Dmace]

Will do. Does anyone know of any pics posted online of this bracket? I'm curious to know what the fix will look like.

I don't have a picture of the underneath but here is a picture from the front. You can see the bracket wrap around the cross arm and it bolts on the bottom, you can see the bolts on the bottom too.

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Here it is before the bracket: (tough to tell the difference)

 

[unhappykioti]

The reinforcing bracket on my loader hits the bottom of my brush guard even though I was told this would not happen. Anyone else have this problem?

 

[Dmace]

The reinforcing bracket on my loader hits the bottom of my brush guard even though I was told this would not happen. Anyone else have this problem?

Never with mine, is it a Kioti brush guard? I know if i bump it against the side of the dump truck while loading then it bends back just enough to hit the hood when I try and open it. I have to tie the brush guard to a tree and backup a little to bend it back.

 

[Gittyup]

That amount of flex is normal when you put an asymmetrical load on the bucket. It's a good thing as it keeps you from breaking things.

The cracks have never to my knowledge been associated with an actual loader failure.

As far as I'm concerned, mine failed. It bent such that there was about 2" of unlevel from side to side. Made it almost useless when trying to get a level back drag or scrap up a flat load. So, don't do any more digging with it until you get the fix installed.

 

[unhappykioti]

Never with mine, is it a Kioti brush guard? I know if i bump it against the side of the dump truck while loading then it bends back just enough to hit the hood when I try and open it. I have to tie the brush guard to a tree and backup a little to bend it back.

Yes it is a Kioti brush Guard had it installed at the same time as the loader repair and hoe installation.

 

[Gittyup]

If there is nothing wrong with the cracked loaders, then why did Kioti go to all the trouble and expense to create the kits and have them installed for free. The kit were creating in part for appeasement. But given its heft and complexity, it is clearly supposed to actually work. I wonder why they'd make it so if there is no problem? Then Kioti quickly made drastic changes to the design in the form of the KL1x0Bs. The way some of you talk, it was a pure waste of time and money; there's nothing wrong with these loaders at all! How absurb!

 

[laurencen]

If the loader was that far out of level it would work nice to produce the crown one my drivway,

 

[Gittyup]

If the loader was that far out of level it would work nice to produce the crown one my drivway,

It sure would have worked for that, if that is all you want it to do. But, I bought a scraper blade for crowning and expected my loader to work like a loader is supposed to work, like the KL130B does.

I wonder if this loader issue had any bearing on Bobcat using their own loader?

 

[laurencen]

For what its worth, had the original loader on a CK20, after 30 hours it had small cracks, did not work it hard but still had cracks and sat flat on the ground, pulled a few stumps and lots of gravel moving, had a few impacts with rocks and junk buried but still sat flat,

 

[mowog74]

Thanks DMace for the photos.

Sorry to stir up the pot over whether the cracks are a problem or not -- I was away for a few days and was amazed to find how long this thread had gotten! I'm a mechanical engineer by training, and I think there's no question the rectangular torque tube with access hole is, shall we say, a sub-optimal design for a torque member. But my thinking is that if Kioti is willing to step up and provide a reasonable repair for free, even if the fix isn't perfect, then who cares whether the cracks are a problem or not? At that price I'm happy to get it installed just for peace of mind.

One of the things you sacrifice when buying anything used is that, in exchange for paying less, you don't get the design improvements the manufacturer has made since yours was built. If Kioti will provide me a reasonable facsimile of one of those improvements for free on my used tractor, that's just icing on the cake. Smart move on their part -- with a phone call from a customer service rep and a couple hundred bucks' worth of kit, they've managed to make me pretty much dismiss this as something that's not worth worrying about.