Cadillac of tractors?

   / Cadillac of tractors? #131  
I didn't mention it, but meant to say some diesels have a hard time breathing.

While shopping for a 1 ton truck recently, I drove alot of older ford 7.3 NA diesels from early 90's .. and compaired tot eh turbo'd 7.3's.. well.. there really was no comparison.. the turbo'd units have more get up and go. and at highway speeds when you stomp the smoke pedal.. the turbo'd units actually respond, even when already crusing at 70mph.

in ford tractors, I have a 5000 NA, and a 7610s turbo.. have driven a 7000 which is basically a 5000 with a turbo. I have also driven a 5000 with an M&W turbo kit. The turbo'd models win hands down in my book. the extra 7 minutes needed to warm up ( 5) and at shutdown (2) are non issues. As far as repair.. well.. run clean oil of the correct grade and change at correct intervals. fix broken manifolds if you find them, and observe shutdown and startup procedures. over the years I've had various turbocharged gas and diesel products. I've only had a problem with 1.. it was a gasser pontic car.. I was a teenager.. I ran it hard, didn't change the oil often and put it away hot. it eventually ate a 700$ turbo. after that.. I did the oil and start/.shutdown by the book.. car had no problems for years.. sold it to a buddy who used al lthe good out of it, then gave it to his brother.. finally it got junked because it was ugly and interior was bad.. car drove to the junkyard just fine.

as for your kubota comparison.. I'm not up on those models.

do they have identical bore and stroke? same compression ratio? any difference in pump and settings?

soundguy

My M7040 only has 1-2 HP difference between N/A & turbo model, but I'd guess the torque rise is better in the turbo model. From what I'm told by mechanic & dealer salesman, only reason turbo was added was emissions.

My NH is 108HP turbo and the turbo gets on my nerves after a long day of use. My NA Kubota seems more relaxing to operate.
 
   / Cadillac of tractors? #133  
My M7040 only has 1-2 HP difference between N/A & turbo model, but I'd guess the torque rise is better in the turbo model. From what I'm told by mechanic & dealer salesman, only reason turbo was added was emissions.

My NH is 108HP turbo and the turbo gets on my nerves after a long day of use. My NA Kubota seems more relaxing to operate.

what NH do you have? TS 100?

My 7610s at about 9hhp is about 89db at the operator seat. No mad canary or anything..

soundguy
 
   / Cadillac of tractors? #134  
We HAVE seen production increases, however, look at the control that Round-Up exercises over the farmer. You might be able to spray your beans with Roundup, however, if they catch holding any in your bins you are in trouble. Their legal department is unreal...

No Round Up around here. Monsanto, the company that brought the world PCB's and hid the fact they were carcinogenic and let's not foget Agent Orange that killed more troups the the 'cong.

Dirty company, that's stuff is poison and no one I love will be fed milk from fields sprayed with it.

Rob
 
   / Cadillac of tractors? #135  
what NH do you have? TS 100?

My 7610s at about 9hhp is about 89db at the operator seat. No mad canary or anything..

soundguy

LB115 Backhoe. 108HP turbocharged. 10 yrs old and outworks a mini-ex sunrise to sunset.
 

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   / Cadillac of tractors? #136  
LB115 Backhoe. 108HP turbocharged. 10 yrs old and outworks a mini-ex sunrise to sunset.

them rubber tire tlb's do put out some work. we have a case 580L at work that is a bit fun to play on.

soundguy
 
   / Cadillac of tractors? #137  
Oh? How do you see that as "non issues"?

Because unless you plow right up to the door of the shed there is no extra time in shutting the machine down. If you do have it that hot at shut down then even a natural aspirated engine should be run a while before it is shutdown.
 
   / Cadillac of tractors? #139  
No Round Up around here. Monsanto, the company that brought the world PCB's and hid the fact they were carcinogenic and let's not foget Agent Orange that killed more troups the the 'cong.

Dirty company, that's stuff is poison and no one I love will be fed milk from fields sprayed with it.

Rob

I didn't know milk come from fields. :laughing:
 
   / Cadillac of tractors? #140  
Because unless you plow right up to the door of the shed there is no extra time in shutting the machine down. If you do have it that hot at shut down then even a natural aspirated engine should be run a while before it is shutdown.

Trouble is the turbo runs hotter than the natural engine and it has more critical turbo parts to be concerned about although not as pronounced on as the gas turbo.

Also, more parts, more chance of failures.

Rob
 

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