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[dmay]

What kind of discount is "average" on a new tractor off of MSRP?

On top of MSRP are typically additional charges for freight and dealer setup. Remember everything ships to the dealer dissassembled and most options are dealer installed. Make sure the price quoted is their final out the door price. IMO from this figure deduct 15% and you will have an honest good deal.

 

[Pushing_Tin]

Everything else has been covered...Only thing I'd suggest is to get the Skid Steer QA on the 300cx.

I'm showing my ignorance here, but what does the skid steer QA do? Allow implements to be used on the front?

 

[jenkinsph]

The skid steer QA has the same front mounting setup as skid steers, which is a universal mounting for pallet forks, buckets, hydraulic augers, brooms and many others. doesn't mean you can use ALL of them but can use the smaller and lighter duty units. This type mounting is popular across many brands or manufacturers.

On the discount anywhere from 15 to 20% is about right. Last year when I purchased the 2009 4520 out the door was 17.82% off. Still got the 0% financing too.

 

[Pushing_Tin]

The skid steer QA has the same front mounting setup as skid steers, which is a universal mounting for pallet forks, buckets, hydraulic augers, brooms and many others. doesn't mean you can use ALL of them but can use the smaller and lighter duty units. This type mounting is popular across many brands or manufacturers.

On the discount anywhere from 15 to 20% is about right. Last year when I purchased the 2009 4520 out the door was 17.82% off. Still got the 0% financing too.

Thanks! So you remove the bucket and put this on?

I see you're in Ruidoso? I used to go up there all the time when I was in the Air Force. I had a season pass to Ski Apache too! Loved it up there, Cloudcroft too.

 

[AKfish]

Everything else has been covered...Only thing I'd suggest is to get the Skid Steer QA on the 300cx.

Thanks, Dave. Gotta have that for the foundry bucket...

AKfish

 

[jenkinsph]

Thanks! So you remove the bucket and put this on?

I see you're in Ruidoso? I used to go up there all the time when I was in the Air Force. I had a season pass to Ski Apache too! Loved it up there, Cloudcroft too.

I really like it here too. God's country for sure.


You need to specify the skidsteer mounting config when you order the fel, to get an idea of the difference look at a skidsteer loader and observe the mounting setup. The 110tlb's have the skidsteer mounting too.

 

[Rob-D]

The only thing I would change is the BH, I'd go with the 485. I saw my new one down at the dealer and it's a lot more hoe than the 375 for not that much more money.
The guys here convinced me to change to the 485 (Thanks AK) and get the thumb too. Nice unit! Lots more power.

Rob

 

[AKfish]

Rob's right... I didn't want to lobby too hard when I'm "spending somebody else's money"!! But, it's like the FEL (300X vs 300CX) - for just a few hundred dollars - you'll have a lot more capable piece of equipment.

The 485 will dig below the frost line for most areas of the country for foundation, footers or crawl spaces. And it will dig and lift stumps and logs or rocks that is just shy of a small commercial grade hoe and on a par with the smaller excavators.

Really depends upon how you see the work/projects for the tractor currently and down the road.

AKfish

 

[Spudland_Dave]

The skid steer QA has the same front mounting setup as skid steers, which is a universal mounting for pallet forks, buckets, hydraulic augers, brooms and many others. doesn't mean you can use ALL of them but can use the smaller and lighter duty units. This type mounting is popular across many brands or manufacturers.

Why I reccomend the SS/QA is while the JD QA system is a QA, its proprietary. The SS/QA is a universal standard. Supply & Demand on the Skid Steer side is way different then the Deere side. So while you pay a little extra for the SS/QA at time of purchase, if you have any thought about getting another bucket, forks, etc.. it will more then pay itself back on your first attachment purchase. Not to mention, Skid Steer buckets are VERY well built compared to their CUT counterparts.
Another thing I think about is not only can i purchase SS attachements cheaply and readily, I can also sell them easily. OR let my bro with his Bobcat Tractor borrow them.

BUT...Jenkinsph is right, dont expect to be able to run a Skid Steer sweeper or an 84" bucket. Its more for "correctly sized" items like Snow Blades, Snow Pushers, Buckets, etc. Its merely an attachment method, not a complete hydraulic package, etc..

 

[joes_427_vette]

Several people coming tomorrow to look at it, it appears she'll be gone soon. It makes me kind of sad.

This is used... or just lthe last one on the lot ? Why don't you try a for sale ad to see if you can move your present machine ? You may find that many are tied to the warranty, zero financing or just the trust that the dealer can provide for future contacts. It is harder than one thinks to sell late model equipment for near retail value........ but they expect this from a dealer. Good luck.

 

[kennyd]

Why I reccomend the SS/QA is while the JD QA system is a QA, its proprietary. The SS/QA is a universal standard. Supply & Demand on the Skid Steer side is way different then the Deere side. So while you pay a little extra for the SS/QA at time of purchase, if you have any thought about getting another bucket, forks, etc.. it will more then pay itself back on your first attachment purchase. Not to mention, Skid Steer buckets are VERY well built compared to their CUT counterparts.
Another thing I think about is not only can i purchase SS attachements cheaply and readily, I can also sell them easily. OR let my bro with his Bobcat Tractor borrow them.

BUT...Jenkinsph is right, dont expect to be able to run a Skid Steer sweeper or an 84" bucket. Its more for "correctly sized" items like Snow Blades, Snow Pushers, Buckets, etc. Its merely an attachment method, not a complete hydraulic package, etc..

I am just the opposite of you-I think the JDQA is perfect for small and medium framed tractors. It's cheaper, and lighter than the SSQA and just as fast/easy to use.

In my way of thinking, there are only three basic things most people use on the loaders- Buckets, Forks, and Grapples. All three of those are readily available in the JDQA style from JD or the aftermarket. Those three things in the SSQA style are usually to heavy for a CUT to use effectively.

I am not trying to start an argument-just offering another point of view.

 

[kennyd]

This is used... or just lthe last one on the lot ? Why don't you try a for sale ad to see if you can move your present machine ? You may find that many are tied to the warranty, zero financing or just the trust that the dealer can provide for future contacts. It is harder than one thinks to sell late model equipment for near retail value........ but they expect this from a dealer. Good luck.

I think he means they are coming to look at HIS tractor that he posted for sale on CL.

 

[Pushing_Tin]

This is used... or just lthe last one on the lot ? Why don't you try a for sale ad to see if you can move your present machine ? You may find that many are tied to the warranty, zero financing or just the trust that the dealer can provide for future contacts. It is harder than one thinks to sell late model equipment for near retail value........ but they expect this from a dealer. Good luck.

Yes I sold it yesterday. It's still at my house and I'll drop it off tomorrow locally.

This is the latest and greatest offer I have received:

3320 HST
300CX with heavy duty bucket and tooth bar
Frontier 60" rear mower
Deluxe Hood Guard

$24k out the door, no tax in Oregon

Thoughts?

 

[jenkinsph]

This is the latest and greatest offer I have received:

3320 HST
300CX with heavy duty bucket and tooth bar
Frontier 60" rear mower
Deluxe Hood Guard

$24k out the door, no tax in Oregon

Thoughts?

Is this just the base tractor with hood guard or are other options included?
Which Frontier mower?

It's all in the details.


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Looks like the configurator with ehydro, deluxe hoodguard, RC2060 rear cutter, slip clutch and chains front and rear. 300CX fel comes to $27,368.00. With 18% off it comes to $22442, your current price of $24,000 is a little over 12% off. Since you are a customer without a trade I think you could add a few accessories such as extendable link arms and wheel weights or something else of your choosing to get a little better deal.

 

[AKfish]

I am just the opposite of you-I think the JDQA is perfect for small and medium framed tractors. It's cheaper, and lighter than the SSQA and just as fast/easy to use.

In my way of thinking, there are only three basic things most people use on the loaders- Buckets, Forks, and Grapples. All three of those are readily available in the JDQA style from JD or the aftermarket. Those three things in the SSQA style are usually to heavy for a CUT to use effectively.

I am not trying to start an argument-just offering another point of view.

Generally, a discussion is not an "argument" until one or more parties become "abusive and/or unwilling to respect someone else's point of view".

So, with the intention of discussing the pros and cons of the SS mount vs the JDQA:

I agree with your assertion regarding the "three basic attachments that most people use on their FEL". That pretty well covers it..

However, there are a number of current Bobcat skid-steer loaders that do not have the lifting capacity of the 300CX loader: S70, S100,S130. Bobcat also makes a couple of track loaders with less lifting capacity than the 300CX FEL.

Buckets, forks, grapples etc. for those models would all perform very well with the 3000 series machine.

The broom, and augers might not be suitable given the lower hyd output - but the 300CX (or even the 300X) would not have a problem lifting the attachment.

Regarding your view that the SS system is "heavy" - how heavy do you imagine that it is? Or more importantly how much heavier is it than the JDQA? 75lbs, 100lbs?

For the sake of discussion: I would venture that each SS attachment end at the curl cylinder is less than 50lbs - face plate and locking lever - but, for discussion purposes; let's say they each weigh 50lbs. Heck, let's say they weigh 75lbs each!!

And the JDQA - how about 10lbs for the hardware; 20lbs total.

So, we have a difference of 130lbs. That drops the lifting capacity of the 300CX right down to something in the neighborhood of 1,400lbs...

That is not likely a "make or break" weight problem for most users - IMO.

Finally, the availability of SS buckets, forks, grapples and other attachments that can be had for generally, much less than the "hard to find - or impossible to find" John Deere equivalent makes the SS option a very easy decision to make - IMO.

AKfish

 

[Pushing_Tin]

Is this just the base tractor with hood guard or are other options included?
Which Frontier mower?

It's all in the details.


edit

Looks like the configurator with ehydro, deluxe hoodguard, RC2060 rear cutter, slip clutch and chains front and rear. 300CX fel comes to $27,368.00. With 18% off it comes to $22442, your current price of $24,000 is a little over 12% off. Since you are a customer without a trade I think you could add a few accessories such as extendable link arms and wheel weights or something else of your choosing to get a little better deal.

I also got the R4 tires with ballast, the heavy duty 61" bucket, the tooth bar and delivery. I also made them throw in a new JD hat!

AKfish, I did call your salesman friend Jason in Washington. He couldn't match the deal that I got locally. It would have had to be at least $500 or more to make it worth the drive. He did appreciate me checking though.

 

[AKfish]

Congratulations!! :thumbsup:

Ya done pretty good - I come up with right around 15%. Hopefully, you did a little better than $9K for your 2320...

Sorry, Jason couldn't get any closer on price for you. I was hoping that he would be a little "hungrier" and offer at least a couple of percent lower than your guy!

Looking forward to your pictures!

AKfish

 

[Spudland_Dave]

I am just the opposite of you-I think the JDQA is perfect for small and medium framed tractors. It's cheaper, and lighter than the SSQA and just as fast/easy to use.

I am not trying to start an argument-just offering another point of view.

I see your point...but I dont see the JD QA as cheaper at all. I guess it all depends on your shopping and what you want...Yeah, its cheaper out of the gate, but in the long haul, way more expensive.
Case in point... I paid $300.00 for a set of barely used Caterpillar 5500lb forks. (The Carriage even had shipping stickers still on it) I feel confident in saying I could not buy a better set of quality forks for less money. Are they overkill, Yep, absouletly...but I have not yet encountered a time where the 50-100 lbs or whatever weight difference between lightweight JD stuff and HD Skid Steer stuff made the difference in lift capacity.
I've seen some nice Tooth buckets on CL (complete buckets with teeth, used of course) for approx the same price as a tooth bar. I dunno about you, but $$ being equal, I'd rather get a completely dedicated tooth bucket over a tooth bar. If SWMBO wouldnt have me on a tight "equipment purchase" leash these days I'd have one. Its not hard to find gently used and or great pricing on Skid Steer attachments, I dont see too many used JD/QA attachments on CL and such.

My single biggest "claim to fame" and such of SS/QA is its an industry standard. If my green dealer really tweaks me (I love them, but just using that as an example), I can sell my tractor tomorrow and go buy a Bobcat/Kubota/Cub Cadet, and most any other brand and my loader attachment inventory stays with me. AND if my bro buys himself a grapple bucket for his Bobcat, guess who can borrow it? :thumbsup:

Like you, no intent of arguement here...just explaining my position and thought process. To back you up, I do agree though that if the ONLY thing you use on your loader is a bucket, then yeah...JD/QA is fine...from a technical perspective, there is nothing wrong with the JD/QA.

 

[Pushing_Tin]

Congratulations!! :thumbsup:

Ya done pretty good - I come up with right around 15%. Hopefully, you did a little better than $9K for your 2320...

Sorry, Jason couldn't get any closer on price for you. I was hoping that he would be a little "hungrier" and offer at least a couple of percent lower than your guy!

Looking forward to your pictures!

AKfish

Yup, I got $11,500 for it. The new one will be delivered tomorrow. I'll post some pics then.

 

[jenkinsph]

As I understand you sold for $11,500 and purchased the new 3320 for $24,000. So the difference is $12,500 that sounds like a much better deal than $21,000 to me.

Done good.:thumbsup: