RadarTech
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oh ok-- explain that to the newbie here...
Not sure why but I know this is a funny...
J
Mystery of the Flying Walenda/Houdini Bull
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oh ok-- explain that to the newbie here...
Not sure why but I know this is a funny...
J
aczlan
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Welllllll a steer is what you might call a "Broken" bull, ie: he is missing certain critical parts of his reproductive system that might "steer" him to chase the ladies.
Aaron Z
RadarTech
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ahhh I see....:laughing::laughing::laughing:
I work with a bunch of steers.... But I aint one..:laughing:
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I am told that if he has figured out how things work down there, "breaking" him (short of pulling a Lorena Bobbit) will not change his behavior being as he will have no way of knowing that he is now broken.
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texasjohn
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Welllll... gotta be specific re what behavior... if a critter has learned to jump fences...the knowledge is not centered in the gonads, thus remains when they are gone
If critter has learned to jump cattle guard or slip thru a hole in the fence, memory is not removed with the mountain oysters:laughing:
Now, desire, hmm... if time of operation is pre puberty, then it doesn't develop. If done as a mature animal, well, it'll drop off in a short while.
Said another way... when DESIRE is reduced/lost, although the ability to cross fence boundaries remains, the interest in doing so drops. Also, interest in the opposite sex is also extremely reduced.
supporting studies/info are here and here.
If critter has learned to jump cattle guard or slip thru a hole in the fence, memory is not removed with the mountain oysters:laughing:
Now, desire, hmm... if time of operation is pre puberty, then it doesn't develop. If done as a mature animal, well, it'll drop off in a short while.
Said another way... when DESIRE is reduced/lost, although the ability to cross fence boundaries remains, the interest in doing so drops. Also, interest in the opposite sex is also extremely reduced.
supporting studies/info are here and here.
dcyrilc
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Kinda cuts into the breeding program though.
We got rid of both of our bulls last year and it has only taken one season of trying stud service to be looking at getting a bull back on the farm.:laughing:
We got rid of both of our bulls last year and it has only taken one season of trying stud service to be looking at getting a bull back on the farm.:laughing:
texasjohn
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Stud service...dunno if you mean haul the cow to the bull when she's ready, or AI. Either way, neither can beat a bull, any working bull, for knowing when and how to get the job done:thumbsup: BTDT
dcyrilc
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Trying to haul cow and calf, combined with timing and still trying to work with my calf from the previous years breeding. I like getting a lot of hands on time with my calves. Makes them a lot easier to work with when they're older. My 16 month old from last year, I can halter and just pick up and trim her hooves as needed. Much easier than trying to fight them.:thumbsup:
RadarTech
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not sure I would admit that hands on time with the dem calves!:laughing::laughing:
6thgpSF
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texasjohn I got another question kinda off topic but can you give me an idea on the cost of what a heifer would run.and do you raise just herefords?up here where I live you don't see many herefords.I asked my neighabor who runs a cattle ranch and he said faceflys seem to hone in on herefords more than angus. russ
