Stuck partly in pond. 2nd time I've done this

   / Stuck partly in pond. 2nd time I've done this #41  
I have never used the log on the rear tire trick but one day I likely will. Johndeere3720, try turfs on ice if you want a fun ride!! BTW, didn't know you had a cattle dog too! Good stuff.

Ironically, in June I posted the following:




Default Re: First time stuck - almost
I wish I had a picture but the other day I was grading the edge of our pond and the back end of the tractor with blade attached slide down into the water. The edge of the pond is about 30% slope so it was steep. No matter what I did I could not get out. Finally had to get towed.

I do plan on getting stuck more in the future though!

Try either of the the three on a tractor, turf, AG or R4 on ice if you want a fun ride.
 
   / Stuck partly in pond. 2nd time I've done this #42  
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/owning-operating/174999-first-time-stuck-almost.html
You will find me digging at Posting #50.. I didn't read the whole thread yet but had someone suggested pushing fill gravel onto that embankment to give you better traction?

i did not say use gravel for traction, that will just cause you to spin at that angle like walking on marbles the reason for the rock in my mind is to stop erosion into the lake from rain, which is prolly why he blades it every so often.
 
   / Stuck partly in pond. 2nd time I've done this #43  
I have never used the log on the rear tire trick but one day I likely will. Johndeere3720, try turfs on ice if you want a fun ride!! BTW, didn't know you had a cattle dog too! Good stuff.

Ironically, in June I posted the following:




Default Re: First time stuck - almost
I wish I had a picture but the other day I was grading the edge of our pond and the back end of the tractor with blade attached slide down into the water. The edge of the pond is about 30% slope so it was steep. No matter what I did I could not get out. Finally had to get towed.

I do plan on getting stuck more in the future though!

I'm thinking you either need a tracked vehicle or your own tow truck. It would save you money and grief in the long run.


Wedge
 
   / Stuck partly in pond. 2nd time I've done this #44  
Don't have photos, but I sunk my JD 5200 in a soft spot cleaning up debris from ice storm a couple years ago. Neighbor tried to pull me out, but his 4000 Ford wouldn't do it.

He then showed me a variation of the fence post trick. Ran a short chain through one of the holes in the rear tire rim, around the tire, hooked it to itself. Do this in the "3 o'clock position" on the rim (toward the front). Then hooked a longer chain to the one looped around the tire, took up the slack, and secured to a tree out in front of the tractor. I put the tractor in lowest gear possible, and tried to ease forward. The wheel turned slowly, rotating the hole the chain was through to the 9o'clock position (toward the back of the tractor).

Since the other end was secured to the tree, tractor moved forward by the diameter of the wheel. Then I just let the tire spin back to where the hole is on the front side of the tire, took up the the slack in the chain on the end connected to the tree, and repeated the process. In repeating 5 or so times, we "winched' the tractor out of the muck. If need to go backwards, could do same thing by starting with chain in the 9 oclock position on the tire, and backing up to the 3.

Of course, if your rims are solid (no holes to run a chain through), this does not work. I was also a bit nervous about having that kind of load on the chain essentially a few feet from where I was driving the tractor, and what direction the tractor would go if it could not move forward. Best to do this one very slow and carefully.
 
   / Stuck partly in pond. 2nd time I've done this #45  
would the fel not help pull you at all? even if you dropped the blade? What about using your bucket on your fel to grade the bank. You wouldn't have to get so close.
 
   / Stuck partly in pond. 2nd time I've done this #46  
Don't have photos, but I sunk my JD 5200 in a soft spot cleaning up debris from ice storm a couple years ago. Neighbor tried to pull me out, but his 4000 Ford wouldn't do it.

He then showed me a variation of the fence post trick. Ran a short chain through one of the holes in the rear tire rim, around the tire, hooked it to itself. Do this in the "3 o'clock position" on the rim (toward the front). Then hooked a longer chain to the one looped around the tire, took up the slack, and secured to a tree out in front of the tractor. I put the tractor in lowest gear possible, and tried to ease forward. The wheel turned slowly, rotating the hole the chain was through to the 9o'clock position (toward the back of the tractor).

Since the other end was secured to the tree, tractor moved forward by the diameter of the wheel. Then I just let the tire spin back to where the hole is on the front side of the tire, took up the the slack in the chain on the end connected to the tree, and repeated the process. In repeating 5 or so times, we "winched' the tractor out of the muck. If need to go backwards, could do same thing by starting with chain in the 9 oclock position on the tire, and backing up to the 3.

Of course, if your rims are solid (no holes to run a chain through), this does not work. I was also a bit nervous about having that kind of load on the chain essentially a few feet from where I was driving the tractor, and what direction the tractor would go if it could not move forward. Best to do this one very slow and carefully.

My father in law used something similar to get our CX80 out of a pond, but used chains on both rear tires and secured them to a LP tank truck. Put diff lock on and walked the tractor out by wrapping the chains around the tires as it pulled itself up and out of the mud.
 
   / Stuck partly in pond. 2nd time I've done this #47  
Best to plan ahead. Use your post hold digger and put in some 4' deep cement with stainless loops on the top at ground level. Connect a chain to the bucket and curl to pull yourself out.

But, you did say you have woods nearby at the top. Wonder why you didn't do the same hooked to a tree? The curl has saved me plenty of times. I go by the face saving definition that you're not stuck if you don't have to call for help.
 
   / Stuck partly in pond. 2nd time I've done this #48  
Don't have photos, but I sunk my JD 5200 in a soft spot cleaning up debris from ice storm a couple years ago. Neighbor tried to pull me out, but his 4000 Ford wouldn't do it.

He then showed me a variation of the fence post trick. Ran a short chain through one of the holes in the rear tire rim, around the tire, hooked it to itself. Do this in the "3 o'clock position" on the rim (toward the front). Then hooked a longer chain to the one looped around the tire, took up the slack, and secured to a tree out in front of the tractor. I put the tractor in lowest gear possible, and tried to ease forward. The wheel turned slowly, rotating the hole the chain was through to the 9o'clock position (toward the back of the tractor).

Since the other end was secured to the tree, tractor moved forward by the diameter of the wheel. Then I just let the tire spin back to where the hole is on the front side of the tire, took up the the slack in the chain on the end connected to the tree, and repeated the process. In repeating 5 or so times, we "winched' the tractor out of the muck. If need to go backwards, could do same thing by starting with chain in the 9 oclock position on the tire, and backing up to the 3.

Of course, if your rims are solid (no holes to run a chain through), this does not work. I was also a bit nervous about having that kind of load on the chain essentially a few feet from where I was driving the tractor, and what direction the tractor would go if it could not move forward. Best to do this one very slow and carefully.

Okay, I know I am simple. But I can't visualize this. Can someone draw a picture (some of y'all are good at this). I will go look at my tires to try and understand this better.

I'd like to keep this in my arsenal as I have a real swampy area that is just begging me to try.
 
   / Stuck partly in pond. 2nd time I've done this #49  
"But I can't visualize this"

Think of the tracks on a bulldozer. The rear wheels can't spin but instead will ride forward on the chain.
 
   / Stuck partly in pond. 2nd time I've done this #50  
Hmmm, I never said I was so smart!

Pond nothing... What about that alligator in the 3rd pic... !!!!

hehehe...

Were you going to use the box blade to smooth out the water? <I kill me!!>..

Phill
 

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