Jinma FYI

[chris0152]

Long story short, I'm doing some maintenance/upgrades on a Iron Horse 224 (Jinma 200 series from what I've read on here). I thought I should share two useful tidbits on here:

-The Ford ignition switch that is a very popular upgrade can be found on the shelf at a Tractor Supply Store (Tractor Supply Company - Home) for ~$24.

-Instead of ordering a replacement hydrraulic filter assembly, a Motorcraft oil filter #2017 will fit near perfectly in the filter assembly and is only $7.

 

[greg_g]

Thanks for the input Chris, but I hope you didn't waste any money on that stuff. Cuz all those switches on the TSC website are for gasoline engines. None are the "Ford cold start switch" (7 terminals/5 positions) that is mentioned so frequently in Chinese tractor forums. Besides a dubious capability of handling the amperage, what's missing on all those TSC switches is the spring-loaded pre-HEAT position (for the glow plugs).

FYI - if you can find a Lucas 36614A switch (photo below), it's the Euro-version of the Ford type discussed here .

And just cuz any old painted can spins on and seals - doesn't make it right. I'm sure I'll only be the first of several voices here to STRONGLY recommend against substituting a spin-on type engine oil filter on a hydraulic system.

//greg//

 

[studor]

Hey Chris -- welcome aboard
You do not list a location but I would echo Gregs comments if you are anywhere that gets below freezing. The switch must have a glow plug capability and the filter is probably to "tight" for use on the hydraulics. Look for a filter of at least 30 microns of the hydraulic variety. In cold weather, the Jinma will either have to be pugged in or glow plugged or both -- JMHO.

 

[Diamondpilot]

As the others said the filter you listed is not what you want. Its a filter. Filters are meant to be on the return side of a hydraulic system. What you want is one meant for the suction side.

As for the switch you need one that allows the glow plugs to ignite.

Chris

 

[Bob Rooks]

Instead of ordering a replacement hydrraulic filter assembly, a Motorcraft oil filter #2017 will fit near perfectly in the filter assembly and is only $7.

With all due respect, yes it may fit but that's where the similarity ends. The motor oil filter is rated nominally at 20-30µ, whereas the hydraulic return line filter is rated at 10µ. Also, the motor oil filter will have a nominal 25 psig internal by-pass, and the hydraulic filter will have a 15 psig internal by-pass. These differences are why they are labeled the way they are. They are application specific.

 

[chris0152]

Thank you all for the quick replies.

The switch that i mentioned is the right switch. It is a five position switch. It is identical to the switches mentioned and shown in various other threads on this site. It is a 5 position switch, the two farthest spots to the right are both momentary, one for glow plugs and one for start. I just looked at TSC's site and can't find it on there. I will take a picture of it and post it with a part number tomorrow morning.

The filter i mentioned is a cartridge type filter. It looked identical as far as filter media. The filter element is the same size as the original. I didn't know about the difference in filtering between oil and hydraulic filters.

 

[Jinma284]

Does the switch from TSC have a part number?

Pat

 

[chris0152]

I just looked at TSC's site and can't find it on there. I will take a picture of it and post it with a part number tomorrow morning.

-Chris

 

[Bob Rooks]

The filter i mentioned is a cartridge type filter. It looked identical as far as filter media. The filter element is the same size as the original. I didn't know about the difference in filtering between oil and hydraulic filters.

Filter media can look alike, but there can be a world of difference. As in motor oil and hydraulic filters, even the media composition (material) can be different, as well as the micron rating.

 

[greg_g]

part number?

That switch has been around since at least the 60s, so it can be purchased under a lot of (superceded) numbers: E7NN11N501AB, C5NN11N572A, D5NN11N572A, D3NN11N501A, E8NN11N501AA, D5NN11N501A, 81871583, 83902803, 8395 and of course that Lucas part number I provided above. Getting your hands on a real Ford switch or a real Lucas switch is a valuable find. Most nowadays are cheap Chinese switches that "replace" the Ford and Lucas switches. But even the cheap aftermarket ones are better than OE on many Chinese tractors..

//greg//