Fullsize V-6 Pickup Comparison

[_RaT_]

Robert, don't you have a Ford pickup? If so, you can come park in my driveway anytime. I promise there will be no laughing at you. :laughing:

Yup, me too. I absolutely laugh my rear off when self professed experts start spouting off about all the problems the 12v Cummins engines had. The advent of the internet and a few dowel pins dropping into the timing gears created a whole panic. LOL!! By the time I sold my '96 Cummins I'd added twins to it, BHAF, head studs, 435 injectors, ringed the head and was not defueling it until nearly 6000 RPM! Running the snot out of it for years that about the only issues I had was keeping a transmission behind it!

I had a couple of 7.3 PSD trucks and I am completely unimpressed with that engine. Besides always having "issues", I've never seen any group of engines that pour engine oil on the ground like they do! Since I spent a small fortune concreting my driveway, nobody I know is allowed to drive their 7.3 PSD down my driveway because of all the oil they pour out! If you want to say "what about the '6 leaker'," I'll just laugh at you. My '06 F350 runs in the low 12's in the quarter mile, pulls loads well over it's rating on a consistent basis and it's never leaked a drop on my driveway since I had some skirt gasket fixed under warranty when I bought it about 2 and a half years ago.

If they keep things up with twin turbos on the 6 bangers, most people driving diesels won't even need their diesels unless they just like the sound (and there's plenty like that). After all, the good old 12v Cummins only has 6 cylinders. Now that I think about it, my motor coach only has 6 cylinders in it's Cat C9 engine as well. I don't have any power issues with it either.

 

[RobertN]

Used to, till I got the Dodge some years back. My F250 had that same IFS sag that yours has, till I put a straight axle up front.

Robert, don't you have a Ford pickup? If so, you can come park in my driveway anytime. I promise there will be no laughing at you. :laughing:

 

[RobertN]

I do find it interesting, that in my Fire Dept, all the newer aparatus have '6's(8.9L Cummins). Our older stuff had Detroit and CAT V8's. The Cat's were all 3208, cause that engine is about all that will fit in the older Ford 7 and 8 series cabover chassis.

If they keep things up with twin turbos on the 6 bangers, most people driving diesels won't even need their diesels unless they just like the sound (and there's plenty like that). After all, the good old 12v Cummins only has 6 cylinders. Now that I think about it, my motor coach only has 6 cylinders in it's Cat C9 engine as well. I don't have any power issues with it either.

 

[RobertN]

Back to V6's...

While growing up, my Dad had a 70 CJ5 with the 225 Buick V6. Later on, I got that Jeep, and had it for a number of years.

It was only rated at about 160hp, but that V6 worked very well. My Dad and I both used it on Rubicon and other hard rock trails, in addition to tons of other of-roading. It had nice power and decent torque, for being 40 years ago. We towed utility tralier with it. Between the motor, and the heavy flywheel, it had nice torque

No reason a newer V6 could not be a nice option. For a truck though, I wonder why a turbo? A small supercharger makes more sense, because it would make more power from and idle up, as compared to a turbo.

 

[Dargo]

I do find it interesting, that in my Fire Dept, all the newer aparatus have '6's(8.9L Cummins). Our older stuff had Detroit and CAT V8's. The Cat's were all 3208, cause that engine is about all that will fit in the older Ford 7 and 8 series cabover chassis.

My coach is built on a Freightliner chassis and has the 8.8 liter Cat C9 engine in it. Apparently that chassis must also be used in some firetruck applications because there are all sorts of brackets on the frame that are marked for bolting different firetruck specific items to. It only puts out 400 hp and 1150 ft lbs or torque but it sure is physically much larger than my pickup engines. It certainly isn't going to win any fuel economy battles!

 

[Dmace]

No reason a newer V6 could not be a nice option. For a truck though, I wonder why a turbo? A small supercharger makes more sense, because it would make more power from and idle up, as compared to a turbo.

A supercharger is run off an accessory belt that's connected to your crankshaft pulley so it is directly robbing power while making it. A small supercharger will barely make more power than it's already robbing from your engine. Secondly, a supercharger's power (boost) is not as easy to control as a variable vein turbo. Thirdly, if you stay light on the gas in a turbo vehicle there is no difference in fuel mileage vs a supercharger that's always robbing fuel mileage as well as power.

 

[Bird]

A salesman at my local Ford dealer recently told me they expect to get the F150s with the Ecoboost in March. And today I got an e-mail from them saying they will have one available for test drives from noon to 4 p.m. on December 9; to call if I wanted to schedule a test drive.

 

[Diamondpilot]

A salesman at my local Ford dealer recently told me they expect to get the F150s with the Ecoboost in March. And today I got an e-mail from them saying they will have one available for test drives from noon to 4 p.m. on December 9; to call if I wanted to schedule a test drive.

I would be first in line.

Chris

 

[Bird]

I would be first in line.

Chris

I would, too . . . if I thought I could afford to buy one if I liked it, but since I can't, I'll wait until later, much later probably.:laughing:

 

[_RaT_]

Same boat here. Even if I could afford to buy one new I doubt I would.

I would, too . . . if I thought I could afford to buy one if I liked it, but since I can't, I'll wait until later, much later probably.:laughing: