Ford V-6 beats v-8's in towing competition
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Lt CHEG
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I hope that the real world durability results are just as good as the controlled testing results. If that is the case then Ford has clearly got a winner with this engine. It will be the bench mark for half ton truck engine design.
VitaBene
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Those are impressive #s and performance. I have to admit, I never thought I would see the day when a V6 in a pickup would perform like this.
schmism
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notice it says nothing about fuel performance vs the others V8's
See theres this thing about "power" (you know work/time) were you just cant "invent" power out of thin air... it has to come from something... so if you want a certain amount of power... you have to burn a certain amount of fuel.
so if you want to do the same amount of work (pull the same trailer up the same hill) and you want to do it in less time, then you have to have more power and the only place that comes from is from burning more fuel.
now yes there is efficiency, how effectively are you burning your fuel ect...perhaps the direct injection gives you a slight advantage. but how much? (show us some MPG numbers)
in addition what are the displacement numbers. you remember the old saying, no replacement for displacement? so are you stacking a 4.0 L V6 up against a 4.2 L V8?....if so that V8 doesnt have much advantage in L. and the fact that your V6 is running twin turbos is HUGE. Not in that you wind up with better efficiency numbers but that cramming more air into the cylinder allows you to push more fuel in (again back to that power thing)
SO next time you want me to be impressed with your spankin new unproven engine, slap a displacement number on it, and if your going to plaster "ECOBOOST" all over your advertisement you better d@mn have some solid MPG numbers to back it up! (opps you must have forgot those)
In short im unimpressed.
See theres this thing about "power" (you know work/time) were you just cant "invent" power out of thin air... it has to come from something... so if you want a certain amount of power... you have to burn a certain amount of fuel.
so if you want to do the same amount of work (pull the same trailer up the same hill) and you want to do it in less time, then you have to have more power and the only place that comes from is from burning more fuel.
now yes there is efficiency, how effectively are you burning your fuel ect...perhaps the direct injection gives you a slight advantage. but how much? (show us some MPG numbers)
in addition what are the displacement numbers. you remember the old saying, no replacement for displacement? so are you stacking a 4.0 L V6 up against a 4.2 L V8?....if so that V8 doesnt have much advantage in L. and the fact that your V6 is running twin turbos is HUGE. Not in that you wind up with better efficiency numbers but that cramming more air into the cylinder allows you to push more fuel in (again back to that power thing)
SO next time you want me to be impressed with your spankin new unproven engine, slap a displacement number on it, and if your going to plaster "ECOBOOST" all over your advertisement you better d@mn have some solid MPG numbers to back it up! (opps you must have forgot those)
In short im unimpressed.
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Turbo motor will be much better than a normally aspirated motor for economy. I have read its about a 3-5 mpg gain during the test drives you can take.
schmism
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See we are NOT talking about light footed around town driveing, the test was balls-to-the-wall towing. And in a test like that... your fuel usage is WAY WAY different.
clemsonfor
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Looks like they may have a replacement for the 300 straight 6 .
Granted i agree with what was siad. I can make a huge displacement v-6 and beat a tiny astin martin v-10 or something in a towing challenge. But i really did not read the link though
Granted i agree with what was siad. I can make a huge displacement v-6 and beat a tiny astin martin v-10 or something in a towing challenge. But i really did not read the link though
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Now if Ford can make a V6 SOUND as good as a V8, I'll be interested, but I'm not counting on it. 
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Its not a huge V6.
The Ford is a 3.5L up against the GM 5.3L and the Dodge 5.7L. As for economy I have seen test stating about 24mpg unloaded. I am impressed just like I was with the 3.8L Twin Turbo Grand National when it came out and some of the turbo charged imports. I just wish they could do better than 24mpg.
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schmism
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my 4.4 L V8 (6spd manual) in my bmw with 130K miles on does 24mph around town all day long. About 21 heavy footed, and as much as 30 mph cruising with the cruise control on the highway.