HiddenHollow
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At Home In The Woods
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Obed
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You shouldn't insult Pete like that!Obed & Pete,
Are you guys related? Brothers, perhaps!?
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dcyrilc
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Oh man... did that make me laugh.:laughing::laughing:
eepete
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Barton, I'm honored but I think that's a bit cruel toward Obed...
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Obed
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The Insulation Installers Cut My Strings!
The insulation company installed the basement insulation batting in December. The same company had installed the insulation batting in the main floor walls and the blown insulation in the main floor ceiling several weeks earlier and did a good job. In contrast, the crew the company sent to install the batting in our basement had no clue what they were doing. When my wife went down to the basement to check on them, they were installing the batting in the framed exterior walls with the paper side of the batting facing the exterior wall sheathing. My wife had to show the insulation company workers how to correctly install insulation batting.
The workers did not speak good English. My wife showed the workers the strings we had hung from the main floor low voltage boxes. We intended use these strings to pull Cat 6 cables from the basement to the low voltage boxes on the main floor. She instructed the workers to leave the strings in the basement hanging outside of the insulation batting so we could access the strings. When my wife came back a little later, the workers had cut 3 of the low voltage box strings completely off with no possibility of accessing the strings! She had to tell them not to cut the strings.
Unfortunately, they picked the worst places possible for cutting off my strings. The empty low voltage boxes shown in the pictures are the boxes that were affected. The LV boxes below the living room windows sit sideways. The holes through the floor are about 6" to the sides of the boxes instead of directly below them. It will be very difficult to fish a wire to these boxes at 90 degree angles through the insulated exterior wall; it might not even be possible. And the low voltage boxes under the windows are places I'm certain I will want network jacks.
Now you know why I have so little hair left on my head.
The insulation company installed the basement insulation batting in December. The same company had installed the insulation batting in the main floor walls and the blown insulation in the main floor ceiling several weeks earlier and did a good job. In contrast, the crew the company sent to install the batting in our basement had no clue what they were doing. When my wife went down to the basement to check on them, they were installing the batting in the framed exterior walls with the paper side of the batting facing the exterior wall sheathing. My wife had to show the insulation company workers how to correctly install insulation batting.
The workers did not speak good English. My wife showed the workers the strings we had hung from the main floor low voltage boxes. We intended use these strings to pull Cat 6 cables from the basement to the low voltage boxes on the main floor. She instructed the workers to leave the strings in the basement hanging outside of the insulation batting so we could access the strings. When my wife came back a little later, the workers had cut 3 of the low voltage box strings completely off with no possibility of accessing the strings! She had to tell them not to cut the strings.
Unfortunately, they picked the worst places possible for cutting off my strings. The empty low voltage boxes shown in the pictures are the boxes that were affected. The LV boxes below the living room windows sit sideways. The holes through the floor are about 6" to the sides of the boxes instead of directly below them. It will be very difficult to fish a wire to these boxes at 90 degree angles through the insulated exterior wall; it might not even be possible. And the low voltage boxes under the windows are places I'm certain I will want network jacks.
Now you know why I have so little hair left on my head.
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tommu56
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you might be able to drill up through the plate with a [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dæ*ŽersiBIT[/FONT] they have a spring steel shaft about 4' long that you can bend.
or a right angle drill from below
but it wont be fun
A note of caution on the [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dæ*ŽersiBIT[/FONT] bit they will grab a hold of the insulation and make big ball and do some damage.
On the bit I use a piece of greenfield to keep from doing this.
tom
or a right angle drill from below
but it wont be fun
A note of caution on the [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dæ*ŽersiBIT[/FONT] bit they will grab a hold of the insulation and make big ball and do some damage.
On the bit I use a piece of greenfield to keep from doing this.
tom
dcyrilc
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It can be done, but it's a major PITA.
...and it can play havic with the insolation.
I feel for you.
...and it can play havic with the insolation.
I feel for you.
Ranger Rick
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Obed, could you wrap the end of a fish tape with some double side tape and then try to catch the cut end of your string in the conduit and pull it back to the surface and then tie additional string to the cut end. I can not imagine that the cut end is very far down the conduit. Good luck. Rick
charlz
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If it is a closed space you might be able to run new strings the same way you would run them through conduit. Tie a plastic sandwich baggy onto the end of a new piece of string and poke it into the hole. Go to the other end/hole and suck it through with a shop vac. Be careful of string burns if someone is holding the string when you start to vacuum.
In this situation I think you want the baggy in the hole not through the hole, this way the air will start it moving and hopefully go towards the other hole enough to be sucked through.
Using a piece of lightweight ribbon might even work, need something light enough the air will continue to move it once it gets into the open space inside the wall. Of course the stronger the vacuum the better
In this situation I think you want the baggy in the hole not through the hole, this way the air will start it moving and hopefully go towards the other hole enough to be sucked through.
Using a piece of lightweight ribbon might even work, need something light enough the air will continue to move it once it gets into the open space inside the wall. Of course the stronger the vacuum the better
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Obed
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Rick,
That's a good idea that we can attempt if we can find the bottom end of the string in the hole cut through the 2x6 wall plate. There is no conduit, just a 1" hole cut through the bottom plate of the main floor wall (see the picture). From the basement, you can see the hole through the plate but the string is not visible.
However, the insulation workers went the extra mile. Apparently the workers pulled the string tight and cut it as close as possible to where it exits the hole in the 2x6 plate. After being cut, the string retreated up through the hole.
Obed
