WHATS A GOOD IMPACT WRENCH?

   / WHATS A GOOD IMPACT WRENCH? #71  
Definately a good idea... I should have thought of it.:laughing:

I have all the threading gear for everything from 1/4" up to 2". Don't use it much any more though.[/QUOTE


I don't use mine much either but I bought it cheap and over the last 30 years I think it has more than paid for itself:D

I picked the 300 machine up a couple years back, now I almost look forward to threading pipe !!!!!:thumbsup:
 
   / WHATS A GOOD IMPACT WRENCH? #72  
It should be , since it's 3 X the COST
LOL

You only BUY a quality tool one time, but you PAY for a cheap one every time you use it.;)

I've saved heaps of time and piles of frustration getting nuts and bolts off the first time effortlessly where the weaker units just use air and increase blood pressure.
 
   / WHATS A GOOD IMPACT WRENCH? #73  
I went to the HD today at lunch, and they had the 3/4 PEX for $44 per roll of 100 foot, and 10 foot sticks for $5 per stick. the 1/2 was $25 per roll of 100 and the 10 foot sticks were 2.98 each. they also had all the "sharkbite" fittings and adaptors and crimp rings and tools.
I think I might try it for ease of install and price. It is only rated at 160 lbs at 73 degrees. and derated to 100 lbs at 180 degrees. but it might be a cheap solution. It has some plus points (cheap, easy, supposedly safe) and some negatives. (not as durable as iron or copper, sags, not as high pressure) but all in all I might give it a try.
James K0UA
Yeah, the metals expensive and a lot more work getting it right with steel. You might consider doing mostly steel, but keeping everything a little short. Then as you fit it up splice in 3/4copper in each run to give you fine tuning of length and ability to split any leg on a run just by desweating a copper joint.
larry
 
   / WHATS A GOOD IMPACT WRENCH? #74  
Air tools 101...lots of good info here.
Let me add in one more thing...

I watch people oil their air tools every mornng before getting to work for the day..... when it would be much more beneficial to oil your air tools at the END of every day!
 
   / WHATS A GOOD IMPACT WRENCH? #75  
Let me add in one more thing...

I watch people oil their air tools every mornng before getting to work for the day..... when it would be much more beneficial to oil your air tools at the END of every day!

You're exactly right.
 
   / WHATS A GOOD IMPACT WRENCH? #77  
I'm old school with my 1/2 inch impacts. My daily use gun is a IR231h, which is basically a 231 with handle exhaust. I like it because it hits hard and the handle exhaust keeps me from getting a face full of brake dust when I take a wheel lug off. And at 125 bucks it has good value. Theres nothing wrong with an IR244 at all. It was top of the line 20 years ago, and is still a great heavy duty gun. I used CP734's 25 years ago and still have a couple of them. They don't hit as hard, and never did. I don't care what the torque rating is on them. I retired them after they started breaking and now they are spares. Guys are now buying the lightweight powerhouse guns like the 2135timax or the snap on MG gun. But they are double and triple the cost of the workhorse IR's.
 
   / WHATS A GOOD IMPACT WRENCH? #78  
Alan, get an old 20 lb propane tank. Set it on the floor where you are going to use the impact gun. Tee into the tank, and use it as an added air reservoir just before the gun. Use a short 3/8" hose to the gun. If this makes the gun work OK, then you know that the gun is starving for air.
 
   / WHATS A GOOD IMPACT WRENCH? #79  
Good discussion. I'll have to put in a vote for AirCat. That is what is in my garage. 1/2" is rated at 1000 lbs/ft and is quiet and comfortable to use. I think around $125 or $150 without looking it up.
Perhaps you all can help me with a question that has recently come up. My younger brother lives with me and he is claiming that the impact gun doesnt have as much power as it used to. He is claiming that it is because that I use it above the rated 90 psi sometimes. I do turn it up to 110 or 120 if I have a stubborn bolt once and a while and was assuming this was an acceptable thing to do. His argument is that when you do that it spins too fast and wears things out and the seals arent rated fo anything much above 90 PSI. In theory I would somewhat agree that it is feasible, but in all practicality I dont think Im doing any harm. What do you all think, especially you BIRD since you have a lot of experience with these types of tools.
 
   / WHATS A GOOD IMPACT WRENCH? #80  
As I've mentioned before, every one of the impact wrenches I know of is "rated" at 90 psi. Running higher air pressure will increase power, and almost certainly increase wear to some extent, but how much is open to question, and depends on some other factors, such as how much more air pressure, how tight are the nuts and bolts you're trying to loosen, do they loosen quickly or do you let the impact keep hammering for an extended period of time, how well lubricated is the tool, does it have any dirt or debris that's gotten into the air intake, does it have any corrosion internally. I know that many (probably most) of my customers routinely ran 175 psi. I've repaired tools that twisted the spline off the rotor in the air motor. Perhaps one of the most common excessive wear is rounding the square tip of the anvil (the anvil is what you put the socket on). Now a professional mechanic who uses his impact wrench every day may figure the time he saves by having a more powerful tool is worth the repair costs. But the hobby mechanic who uses his infrquently may never have enough extra wear with the higher pressure to notice it. My current compressor runs 125-150 psi and I never bother with turning the regulator down for anything but the paint spray gun.:D But I don't use my impact wrench and air ratchet often enough or long enough at a time to worry about it. They'll probably both outlast me.;)

But I doubt that your brother is right in saying the higher pressure has caused the gun to lose power. If he was accustomed to higher pressure, then reduced the pressure, naturally it'll seem the gun has less power, and it does. But the kind of wear you get with extra pressure is not the kind that reduces power when you're using the same air pressure. Loss of power can be any restriction in the air flow through the tool, it can be a lack of lubrication, it can be internal corrosion, or it can be worn vanes or blades in the air motor (and corrosion, lack of lubrication, and dirt and debris are what wears them down).
 

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